More Moro(?) spears....

nacho · 27th March 2012, 05:46 PM

This was posted by Lee, Nov 16, 2010. Similarly with incised decoration on silver. This one also has a twistcore blade.

Battara · 27th March 2012, 10:41 PM

What about Chinese Moros? There were some who had Chinese in their blood, and I heard of one even becoming a datu..........

harimauhk · 28th March 2012, 03:17 AM

The Chinese have definitely long been in and out of the Philippines: I was recently down in Basilan and Zamboanga, a stone's throw from Sulu, and there were Chinese businesses everywhere, even with the very real threat of shootouts and bombings. There has long been Chinese influence in the region. There was some very nice Chinese trade pottery on display at the museums in Sabah, Borneo too.

Battara · 28th March 2012, 02:38 PM

Thank you Harimauhk, my point exactly.

nacho · 28th March 2012, 03:20 PM

Speaking of Chinese in Sulu, the current governor of Sulu is Abdusakur Tan. I guess the "Tan" surname indicates he has Chinese lineage.

kino · 14th June 2015, 05:27 PM

It's not exactly plural. Adding to CharlesS complement of Chinese influenced Moro spears is this example. Described as a civilian Chinese spear, is an oddly shaped budiak. The spear head is ~12 in., from the tip to bottom of ferrule 22 in.
In my interpretation the etchings on the ferrule suggests that spring is in the air.

CharlesS · 14th June 2015, 09:43 PM

Kino,

One of the strangest and most interesting spears I have seen. Could you please post a pic of the spear head together with the ferrule and a small part of the haft??? I am curious what the overall look is.

Certainly looks like Moro forging, but I would never have guessed it from the blade shape, which looks very Chinese or SE Asian.

27th March 2012, 05:46 PM	#1
nacho Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Makati Posts: 69	This was posted by Lee, Nov 16, 2010. Similarly with incised decoration on silver. This one also has a twistcore blade. Attached Images

14th June 2015, 05:27 PM	#6
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	Birds and the bees It's not exactly plural. Adding to CharlesS complement of Chinese influenced Moro spears is this example. Described as a civilian Chinese spear, is an oddly shaped budiak. The spear head is ~12 in., from the tip to bottom of ferrule 22 in. In my interpretation the etchings on the ferrule suggests that spring is in the air. Attached Images

27th March 2012, 10:41 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	What about Chinese Moros? There were some who had Chinese in their blood, and I heard of one even becoming a datu..........

28th March 2012, 03:17 AM	#3
harimauhk Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 88	The Chinese have definitely long been in and out of the Philippines: I was recently down in Basilan and Zamboanga, a stone's throw from Sulu, and there were Chinese businesses everywhere, even with the very real threat of shootouts and bombings. There has long been Chinese influence in the region. There was some very nice Chinese trade pottery on display at the museums in Sabah, Borneo too.

28th March 2012, 02:38 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Thank you Harimauhk, my point exactly.

28th March 2012, 03:20 PM	#5
nacho Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Makati Posts: 69	Speaking of Chinese in Sulu, the current governor of Sulu is Abdusakur Tan. I guess the "Tan" surname indicates he has Chinese lineage.

14th June 2015, 09:43 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Kino, One of the strangest and most interesting spears I have seen. Could you please post a pic of the spear head together with the ferrule and a small part of the haft??? I am curious what the overall look is. Certainly looks like Moro forging, but I would never have guessed it from the blade shape, which looks very Chinese or SE Asian.