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Old 23rd August 2005, 09:05 AM   #1
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When then President Marcos declared Martial Law in 1972 one of the laws he promulgated was Presidential Decree No. 9, which, among others, states:

"3. It is unlawful to carry outside of residence any bladed, pointed or blunt weapon such as "fanknife," "spear," "dagger," "bolo," "balisong," "barong,"
"kris," or club, except where such articles are being used as necessary tools or implements to earn a livelihood and while being sued in connection therewith; and any person found guilty thereof shall suffer the penalty of imprisonment ranging from five to ten years as a Military Court/Tribunal/Commission may direct."

This law and martial law in general brought about a dearth in the blade industry in southern philippines at that time. It was not that the kris and barongs became passe after 1970. Bladesmiths simply stopped making them.

When the mid-70s came, Filipino ingenuity made the screw driver a favorite weapon for self-defense - as it comes with a handy excuse for carrying it outside one's residence.

PD no. 9 was later revised over time but was not competely repealed.
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Old 23rd August 2005, 02:08 PM   #2
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Even today, krises and barungs are still being carried and used against the Philippine military.

funny you mentioned that. last time i was there looking for a kris or a barung via word of mouth, i noticed that those that are na nakapatay (been used to kill someone) are highly sought and thus, pricier; so evidently it still being used...

interesting thread so far.
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Old 24th August 2005, 03:10 AM   #3
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funny you mentioned that. last time i was there looking for a kris or a barung via word of mouth, i noticed that those that are na nakapatay (been used to kill someone) are highly sought and thus, pricier; so evidently it still being used...
That is if they are willing to part with it... in my experience they usually don't no matter the price...

here is a link about the beheadings captured on video: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/1829211.stm
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That is if they are willing to part with it... in my experience they usually don't no matter the price...

here is a link about the beheadings captured on video: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/1829211.stm
Thanks for the link, I remember watching that footage on the Filipino channel a few years back when my father was alive. I believe this was after shortly after the capture of a school by Abu Sayaff, and when they holed up in a hospital to be surrounded by Philippine troops in APCs, to only escape from the back (since somehow the troops didnt feel that they would be able to safely guard the back).

As for cut vs stab, another thing to throw in is targetting, targetting, targetting. What is the attacker targetting with his cut or stab. I would be more worried about a cut at my femoral artery than a stab to a large muscle mass such as my outside thigh, and vise versa, a stab to the jugular would be far more dangerous than a lateral slash to the bicep (which would even be a stopping cut as it would not properly sever the connecting tissue). Then there is the whole, what is the fine line between a cut vs stab. If I stab someone, and then proceed to cut out that stab, is it still a stab or a cut (make sense?).
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Old 24th August 2005, 02:38 PM   #5
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That is if they are willing to part with it... in my experience they usually don't no matter the price...
...that's why i ended up going to aldevinco and ermita. otherwise i would've came back empty handed, lol.
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When the mid-70s came, Filipino ingenuity made the screw driver a favorite weapon for self-defense - as it comes with a handy excuse for carrying it outside one's residence.
and the feared tool of choice...the icepick
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Even before bans on swords, improvised weapons have always been popular in PI. I remember many gruesome stories my dad used to tell me about modified forks, 2x2s, and slingshots. The stories were alwas fascinating, particularly as he would explain why he had certain scars. Now this was in the more peaceful days of the 50s/60s
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Old 25th August 2005, 03:02 PM   #9
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...on the same vein:



check the barung on one of the guys


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...improvised weapons have always been popular in PI. I remember many gruesome stories my dad used to tell me about modified forks, 2x2s, and slingshots.
indian target or pana comes to mind. pretty wicked stuff...
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