Old Dutch hanger

M ELEY · 2nd March 2012, 07:22 AM

Dredging up this one again concerning the primer on the blade. Opinions as to whether you think this was applied to the blade during time of use to retard rusting (especially if it was a merchant/sea sword where priming the hilts/blades not uncommon) or done later as preservative.

Secondly, if done later, should I attempt to remove it and if so, how?

M ELEY · 29th March 2014, 03:41 AM

Bumping this thread...

M ELEY · 27th January 2021, 05:23 PM

Just some better pics updated for posterity-

kronckew · 28th January 2021, 09:09 AM

Interim tweaked for clarity on the blade details: should clean up well when you stabilize the rust.

M ELEY · 28th January 2021, 09:50 AM

Thanks for the clarified image, Wayne. Unfortunately, the blade was 'primed' long ago with rust-colored brown paint. I have always been too afraid to try and remove it. I think it was done long ago during the hanger's working life like some other sea swords I've come across to decrease salt water corrosion-

kronckew · 28th January 2021, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M ELEY

Thanks for the clarified image, Wayne. Unfortunately, the blade was 'primed' long ago with rust-colored brown paint. I have always been too afraid to try and remove it. I think it was done long ago during the hanger's working life like some other sea swords I've come across to decrease salt water corrosion-

Many old primers were based on red lead, be careful. back when I was at sea, we almost bathed in it, and asbestos too.

cornelistromp · 12th May 2023, 11:45 AM

it took a while, but finally found it in the Rijksmuseum in Holland

this has been incorrectly dated by the Rijksmuseum between 1500 and 1625, I am almost certain that the date must be around 1650 and that a silver cast example as depicted in the Rotius paintings served as an example.

best, Jasper

27th January 2021, 05:23 PM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,196	Added pics Just some better pics updated for posterity- Attached Images

28th January 2021, 09:09 AM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,249	Interim tweaked for clarity on the blade details: should clean up well when you stabilize the rust. Attached Images

12th May 2023, 11:45 AM	#7
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,063	it took a while, but finally found it in the Rijksmuseum in Holland this has been incorrectly dated by the Rijksmuseum between 1500 and 1625, I am almost certain that the date must be around 1650 and that a silver cast example as depicted in the Rotius paintings served as an example. best, Jasper Attached Images

2nd March 2012, 07:22 AM	#1
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,196	Dredging up this one again concerning the primer on the blade. Opinions as to whether you think this was applied to the blade during time of use to retard rusting (especially if it was a merchant/sea sword where priming the hilts/blades not uncommon) or done later as preservative. Secondly, if done later, should I attempt to remove it and if so, how?

29th March 2014, 03:41 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,196	Bumping this thread...

28th January 2021, 09:50 AM	#5
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,196	Thanks for the clarified image, Wayne. Unfortunately, the blade was 'primed' long ago with rust-colored brown paint. I have always been too afraid to try and remove it. I think it was done long ago during the hanger's working life like some other sea swords I've come across to decrease salt water corrosion-