An Extremely Rare 16th-17th C. Wood-Cased Grape Shot

Matchlock · 28th February 2012, 11:25 AM

John,

It would make identification a lot easier for me if you (or 'Steelcharge') could post the screenshots in question with the museum's inv.nos.

All I did when searching the Armémuseum site was enter the fist link you posted,

http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things/...count=16&pos=5

and then click my way forward and backward thru the rest there.

Best,
m

Matchlock · 28th February 2012, 11:35 AM

From the Cod. Pal. germ. 128, by Franz Helm: Buch von den probierten Künsten (Book on Tested Arts), 1535, preserved in the Universtity Library of Heidelberg.

Enjoy.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 25th April 2012, 02:59 PM

Please see also

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=grape+shot

Here are samples of quilted grape, dated to the 16th-17th c. although it sems that they were identically made for centuries.

The first was sold Bonhams, London, 29 July 2004, at 2,400 GBP including buyer's premium. Its provenance was given as the Princely Collections of Liechtenstein.

The second I photographed in the reserve collection at the Focke-Museum Bremen.

At bottom, a scan from Johann F. (Janos) Szendrei's extremely rare book Ungarische kriegsgeschichtliche Denkmäler, Budapest, 1896, p. 379, is attached.
Szendrei describes the illustrated piece of Traubenhagel as 16th c., measuring 19.5 x 5.5 cm overall and weighing 1,100 grams. A central wooden bar of 14 cm height rises from a wooden cylinder, 5 cm high; around this bar iron balls of a caliber of 15 mm are bound in a linen bag.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 27th April 2012, 08:50 PM

Relics of a very similarly constructed piece of canister grape shot of 1812:

http://images.ourontario.ca/niagaraf...ums/71962/data

m

28th February 2012, 11:35 AM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Devilish Devices of 1535 From the Cod. Pal. germ. 128, by Franz Helm: Buch von den probierten Künsten (Book on Tested Arts), 1535, preserved in the Universtity Library of Heidelberg. Enjoy. Best, Michael Attached Images

25th April 2012, 02:59 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Please see also http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=grape+shot Here are samples of quilted grape, dated to the 16th-17th c. although it sems that they were identically made for centuries. The first was sold Bonhams, London, 29 July 2004, at 2,400 GBP including buyer's premium. Its provenance was given as the Princely Collections of Liechtenstein. The second I photographed in the reserve collection at the Focke-Museum Bremen. At bottom, a scan from Johann F. (Janos) Szendrei's extremely rare book Ungarische kriegsgeschichtliche Denkmäler, Budapest, 1896, p. 379, is attached. Szendrei describes the illustrated piece of Traubenhagel as 16th c., measuring 19.5 x 5.5 cm overall and weighing 1,100 grams. A central wooden bar of 14 cm height rises from a wooden cylinder, 5 cm high; around this bar iron balls of a caliber of 15 mm are bound in a linen bag. Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 25th April 2012 at 09:47 PM.

27th April 2012, 08:50 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Relics of a very similarly constructed piece of canister grape shot of 1812: http://images.ourontario.ca/niagaraf...ums/71962/data m Attached Images

28th February 2012, 11:25 AM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	John, It would make identification a lot easier for me if you (or 'Steelcharge') could post the screenshots in question with the museum's inv.nos. All I did when searching the Armémuseum site was enter the fist link you posted, http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things/...count=16&pos=5 and then click my way forward and backward thru the rest there. Best, m