opinions on my kerises

Henk · 26th December 2004, 10:24 AM

Nechesh is right. A very mixed collection. But a very nice start to begin with.

1. Keris solo, Java, Pamor bulut ayam.
2. This is a maduran keris. The first tourist keris for the dutch soldiers who came home during and after the war. I use to call this a KNIL keris. Koninklijk (Royal) Nederlands (Dutch) Indisch (Indonesian) Leger (Army). The keris itself is a real and good keris. The dress however was made of a cheap piece of wood and carved quickly. You see them still regularly.
3. Nice bali keris with a pendok on the back side. Would be nice to see a picture of it. The mendak is missing.
4. A real balinese tourist keris.
5. Balinese tombak. In my opinion for tourists.
6. Jogya keris, Java. Keris singa. The sitting lion. I think a very nice one.
7. Balinese keris with a walikat sandang scabbard. Very nice. Here too is the mendak missing.
8. Bugis keris. And a good one. Please turn the ukiran (the grip) 90 degrees to the other side.
9. Keris madura. The inlay under the pendok is turtle shell. This ukiran should be turned too 90 degrees.
10. Keris solo, Java.

You have a couple of nice keris. Some care is necesarry but it was a gift. I would be happy too when my friend came with a box with 24 kerisses.

BluErf · 26th December 2004, 02:25 PM

Hmmm... pamor is not my forte, but I don't think the pamor on the Solo keris is bulu ayam. Maybe more like "floating water weed" or something.

rasdan · 27th December 2004, 06:05 AM

Hi,

I think Blu is correct, the pamor is 'gaggeng kanyut'.

DAHenkel · 27th December 2004, 01:43 PM

the no. 8 piece is Peninsular Malay - likely Terengganu. A good serviceable example.

The hilt should face the same direction as the one pictured in my avatar.

Sang Keris · 21st January 2005, 04:38 PM

well its absolutely not a " bulu ayam ",.......

i think blu is right , it's ganggeng ganyut ,

or could be another pamor ....... can i see some more picture of this keris ???

casey · 21st January 2005, 07:10 PM

I hope these pics are a bit better.Would love all opinions I can get I'm enjoying this site very much and learning slowly.I hope to oneday actually be confident with my own opinions. Thanks. Case

nechesh · 21st January 2005, 09:28 PM

Hi Casey. The first 3 look like fairly nice new keris, late 20th century. The last 3 are older. #4, the Bugis keris looks like a fairly nice one that could use a good restaining to really raise the pamor pattern. The 23 luk (#6) keris is pretty unusual, anything truly old with that many curves would be. Turn the handle around so it faces like the others. #5 looks like it could be pamor Adeg of some sort, again in need of restaining. #2 and #3 have nice modern examples of rare Jawa hilt forms.
I know you are anxious to find out about these blades you've been gifted, but it might be less confusing if you presented fewer at a time. One ot two would be ideal so people can really focus on what you are presenting and give you more indepth descriptions and analysis.

26th December 2004, 10:24 AM	#1
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Nechesh is right. A very mixed collection. But a very nice start to begin with. 1. Keris solo, Java, Pamor bulut ayam. 2. This is a maduran keris. The first tourist keris for the dutch soldiers who came home during and after the war. I use to call this a KNIL keris. Koninklijk (Royal) Nederlands (Dutch) Indisch (Indonesian) Leger (Army). The keris itself is a real and good keris. The dress however was made of a cheap piece of wood and carved quickly. You see them still regularly. 3. Nice bali keris with a pendok on the back side. Would be nice to see a picture of it. The mendak is missing. 4. A real balinese tourist keris. 5. Balinese tombak. In my opinion for tourists. 6. Jogya keris, Java. Keris singa. The sitting lion. I think a very nice one. 7. Balinese keris with a walikat sandang scabbard. Very nice. Here too is the mendak missing. 8. Bugis keris. And a good one. Please turn the ukiran (the grip) 90 degrees to the other side. 9. Keris madura. The inlay under the pendok is turtle shell. This ukiran should be turned too 90 degrees. 10. Keris solo, Java. You have a couple of nice keris. Some care is necesarry but it was a gift. I would be happy too when my friend came with a box with 24 kerisses.

26th December 2004, 02:25 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hmmm... pamor is not my forte, but I don't think the pamor on the Solo keris is bulu ayam. Maybe more like "floating water weed" or something.

27th December 2004, 06:05 AM	#3
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Hi, I think Blu is correct, the pamor is 'gaggeng kanyut'.

27th December 2004, 01:43 PM	#4
DAHenkel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 125	the no. 8 piece is Peninsular Malay - likely Terengganu. A good serviceable example. The hilt should face the same direction as the one pictured in my avatar.

21st January 2005, 04:38 PM	#5
Sang Keris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indonesia Posts: 46	well its absolutely not a " bulu ayam ",....... i think blu is right , it's ganggeng ganyut , or could be another pamor ....... can i see some more picture of this keris ???

21st January 2005, 07:10 PM	#6
casey Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: australia Posts: 13	I hope these pics are a bit better.Would love all opinions I can get I'm enjoying this site very much and learning slowly.I hope to oneday actually be confident with my own opinions. Thanks. Case Attached Images

21st January 2005, 09:28 PM	#7
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Hi Casey. The first 3 look like fairly nice new keris, late 20th century. The last 3 are older. #4, the Bugis keris looks like a fairly nice one that could use a good restaining to really raise the pamor pattern. The 23 luk (#6) keris is pretty unusual, anything truly old with that many curves would be. Turn the handle around so it faces like the others. #5 looks like it could be pamor Adeg of some sort, again in need of restaining. #2 and #3 have nice modern examples of rare Jawa hilt forms. I know you are anxious to find out about these blades you've been gifted, but it might be less confusing if you presented fewer at a time. One ot two would be ideal so people can really focus on what you are presenting and give you more indepth descriptions and analysis.