help please with this short sword

Iain · 24th January 2012, 02:11 PM

Agreed on SE Asia. Quite an unusual form, the blade decoration in particular perks my interest. Not a style I remember seeing?

Very interesting hilt form as well, having trouble thinking of anything even remotely similar from those general regions.

Jim McDougall · 24th January 2012, 02:29 PM

LOL Gene!!! good point, this seemingly endless mountain of Richmond's is pure treasure!!!
Im with you guys on Indonesia, the style of the scabbard and that distinct point at the tip reminds me of scabbards from those places, but I cant recall exactly where.
Iain...I cant help thinking this looks like an Indonesian 'takouba' !!

maybe I need a day off ?

All the best,
Jim

Iain · 24th January 2012, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Iain...I cant help thinking this looks like an Indonesian 'takouba' !!

maybe I need a day off ?

All the best,
Jim

If it wasn't for that scabbard I'd be going for a different ID and end up with mud on my face.

And that pile of Richmond's IS pure gold, keep em coming mate.

thinreadline · 24th January 2012, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain

If it wasn't for that scabbard I'd be going for a different ID and end up with mud on my face.

And that pile of Richmond's IS pure gold, keep em coming mate.

Well you know Iain ( and Jim ) when I first pulled it out .. I thought the same .. but this is hope springing eternal etc ...
As for the heap .. well I told you it was 25 years + accumulation with no theme , rhyme nor reason ! Thats not to say I dont collect or display .. but basically if it didnt grab me , it didnt go on the wall, it went on the 'heap' . Thats why I am so glad I found this forum .. I was floundering for years with no prospect of anything becoming clearer !
Cheers
Richmond

Atlantia · 24th January 2012, 03:40 PM

Hi Richmond,
Can we see some clearer pictures of the blade decoration?
Best
Gene

Tim Simmons · 24th January 2012, 03:58 PM

The engraving on the blade very much reminds me of that on many older Mandau so I am going to suggest Borneo. I think there are many unrecognised blade forms from Borneo. I do not think it will be long before a Mandau with similar engraving pops up.

Sajen · 24th January 2012, 04:56 PM

Sorry Tim,

but the blade engraving reminds me to dha's I have seen and I really don't think that it is an indonesian sword. My guess that it is from Kambodcha, Laos or Vietnam but this is just my guess. The blade shape isn't like a dha but look at the tip of the sheath.

Regards,

Detlef

24th January 2012, 02:11 PM	#1
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,717	Agreed on SE Asia. Quite an unusual form, the blade decoration in particular perks my interest. Not a style I remember seeing? Very interesting hilt form as well, having trouble thinking of anything even remotely similar from those general regions.

24th January 2012, 02:29 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,284	LOL Gene!!! good point, this seemingly endless mountain of Richmond's is pure treasure!!! Im with you guys on Indonesia, the style of the scabbard and that distinct point at the tip reminds me of scabbards from those places, but I cant recall exactly where. Iain...I cant help thinking this looks like an Indonesian 'takouba' !! maybe I need a day off ? All the best, Jim

24th January 2012, 03:40 PM	#5
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Richmond, Can we see some clearer pictures of the blade decoration? Best Gene

24th January 2012, 03:58 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	The engraving on the blade very much reminds me of that on many older Mandau so I am going to suggest Borneo. I think there are many unrecognised blade forms from Borneo. I do not think it will be long before a Mandau with similar engraving pops up.

24th January 2012, 04:56 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,213	Sorry Tim, but the blade engraving reminds me to dha's I have seen and I really don't think that it is an indonesian sword. My guess that it is from Kambodcha, Laos or Vietnam but this is just my guess. The blade shape isn't like a dha but look at the tip of the sheath. Regards, Detlef