A newly aquired Kirach

Rick · 9th January 2012, 09:06 PM

Nice .
My example is a bit more extreme .....

Stan S. · 11th January 2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Nice .
My example is a bit more extreme .....

Yes, I have seen pictures of your sword before. It is beutiful. I am especially stricken by a huge false edge at the back of the blade. A very unusual feature for Indian sword

Rick · 11th January 2012, 03:56 PM

Sometimes I wonder if it really is a kirach or some other kind of beastie .
All the other examples I have seen are more in the style of yours, Stan .

Got any more pictures for us ?

And ....
Is the blade pattern welded ?

Stan S. · 12th January 2012, 02:39 AM

Rick,

I am pretty sure your sword is a kirach too but designed for combat against havier armored opponents. To me it looks almost as if it served a similar purpose to a tegha - serious armor crushing, plus piercing capabilities. I wonder how heavy it is?

You are correct, most kirach I see are similar to mine. However, many have a different kind of blade, where the tip is shaped almost like an up-side-down kissake of a samurai sword. This results in the edge on the convex (cutting) side of the blade to be almost flat. I don't know if this indicates a different use, geographical region, or something else.

I'll clean the sword over the weekend and will try to get a few more pictures including some close-ups. At a glance the blade does not appear to be pattern welded. Its just a plain, although good quality steel, but perhaps I will learn otherwise as I clean this baby.

Rick · 12th January 2012, 04:09 AM

Hi Stan,
That sword weighs in at a tad over two pounds, 32.035 oz .
I'm not so sure about its chopping qualities; but it is a superb blade for the thrust despite (or maybe because of ?) its downward curve .
I have tried it out on ye trusty pool noodle .

I'd be interested in the weight of your example; these swords come along so rarely; more information is always helpful .

dralin23 · 14th January 2012, 10:53 PM

hi rick and stan,
here are 2 kirach swords from my collection.
the first one is an phantastic piece of art. it is an short sword with an light blade. the blade is only 680mm (26,75in) the lenght over all is 88cm(34,5in)
the wight is only 802 gr.
original was the the hilt silverplated.
the most important feature is, these phantastic ironwork at the blade. these pattern was cutting in to the blade.
both swords are from the same size. i think these swors was made not for for caverlery man than for the use from the back from an horse are these swords to short.

dralin23 · 14th January 2012, 11:20 PM

here my second kirach sword,
the blade from these kirach was made from an nice laminated steel.
the size is exactly the same like the first one but the blade is more heavy like the other one. kirach swords are not so often to see like khanda ore sossunpatta swords soit is intresting to see such swords from other collectors!
thanks!!
stefan
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Rick · 15th January 2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dralin23

hi rick and stan,
here are 2 kirach swords from my collection.
the first one is an phantastic piece of art. it is an short sword with an light blade. the blade is only 680mm (26,75in) the lenght over all is 88cm(34,5in)
the wight is only 802 gr.
original was the the hilt silverplated.
the most important feature is, these phantastic ironwork at the blade. these pattern was cutting in to the blade.
both swords are from the same size. i think these swors was made not for for caverlery man than for the use from the back from an horse are these swords to short.

This one (first) is very interesting; do you suppose the blade was reshaped ?
The spine seems straight rather than having a gentle downward curve as the other examples do .

kronckew · 15th January 2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

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I'm not so sure about its chopping qualities; but it is a superb blade for the thrust despite (or maybe because of ?) its downward curve .
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the blade reminds me of the ginunting (not mine),

a superb chopper used by the Philippine Marines. they have resorted to them a number of times in the jungles when ambushed by or ambushing the muslim seperatists. instances supposedly where the target of the blade was cut in half. more used for chopping thru the jungle foliage tho.

a more mundain version (mine) that shows the upper edge better.

Stan S. · 15th January 2012, 10:11 PM

Wow! What beutiful pieces some of you have! Please keep them coming. Thanks!

9th January 2012, 09:06 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Nice . My example is a bit more extreme ..... Attached Images

11th January 2012, 03:56 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Sometimes I wonder if it really is a kirach or some other kind of beastie . All the other examples I have seen are more in the style of yours, Stan . Got any more pictures for us ? And .... Is the blade pattern welded ? Last edited by Rick; 11th January 2012 at 10:48 PM.

14th January 2012, 10:53 PM	#6
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 204	some kirach swords hi rick and stan, here are 2 kirach swords from my collection. the first one is an phantastic piece of art. it is an short sword with an light blade. the blade is only 680mm (26,75in) the lenght over all is 88cm(34,5in) the wight is only 802 gr. original was the the hilt silverplated. the most important feature is, these phantastic ironwork at the blade. these pattern was cutting in to the blade. both swords are from the same size. i think these swors was made not for for caverlery man than for the use from the back from an horse are these swords to short. Attached Images

14th January 2012, 11:20 PM	#7
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 204	the second kirach sword here my second kirach sword, the blade from these kirach was made from an nice laminated steel. the size is exactly the same like the first one but the blade is more heavy like the other one. kirach swords are not so often to see like khanda ore sossunpatta swords soit is intresting to see such swords from other collectors! thanks!! stefan . Attached Images

12th January 2012, 02:39 AM	#4
Stan S. Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY USA Posts: 227	Rick, I am pretty sure your sword is a kirach too but designed for combat against havier armored opponents. To me it looks almost as if it served a similar purpose to a tegha - serious armor crushing, plus piercing capabilities. I wonder how heavy it is? You are correct, most kirach I see are similar to mine. However, many have a different kind of blade, where the tip is shaped almost like an up-side-down kissake of a samurai sword. This results in the edge on the convex (cutting) side of the blade to be almost flat. I don't know if this indicates a different use, geographical region, or something else. I'll clean the sword over the weekend and will try to get a few more pictures including some close-ups. At a glance the blade does not appear to be pattern welded. Its just a plain, although good quality steel, but perhaps I will learn otherwise as I clean this baby.

12th January 2012, 04:09 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Hi Stan, That sword weighs in at a tad over two pounds, 32.035 oz . I'm not so sure about its chopping qualities; but it is a superb blade for the thrust despite (or maybe because of ?) its downward curve . I have tried it out on ye trusty pool noodle . I'd be interested in the weight of your example; these swords come along so rarely; more information is always helpful .

15th January 2012, 10:11 PM	#10
Stan S. Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY USA Posts: 227	Wow! What beutiful pieces some of you have! Please keep them coming. Thanks!