Javanese Keris Info

Satria · 10th August 2005, 10:50 AM

About Dapur and Pamor, I agree with Alam Shah.
In my opinion, that pamor both sides are Wos Wutah. But sorry, I am stiil not find about the figure of wayang on both sides ..

@ thread starter
Wayang is puppet. In Indoenesia especially in Jawa wayang is so famous. The famous one is shadow puppet.I like wyang so much hehehe.
In my life I never heard about kind of pamoor which called " pangayoman ".
I think "pangayoman" is the function of pamor ( magical power ).

Sorry if I make mistake, please another members correct me.

Lei Shen Dao · 10th August 2005, 12:20 PM

Thank you very much Satria

Mmmm, I see. So the pamor is was wutah and the power inside is pengayoman maybe. In a Google search I've done some days ago, I found something for Pengayoman in a Keris or Inonesian site but I couldn't read it because of the language. Don't get me wrong about the tuah matter, but I have my reasons.

So, a keris may have the power of the pamor (luck etc, for was wutah) and maybe an extra power for the owner that ordered it (Pengayoman)...

Of cource I can't see resemblances with Jor_El's keris, but I am not an expert.

Satria, it seems like wayang (thanks for the infos about that) in photos 3,4. Near the gandik (I hope I say it correct) and ganja, it seems like a "dervish" with hands above his head and a dress clothes. Of cource could be my imagination, but it is interesting that Alam saw something like that too.

Sorry for the many questions, but keris is a very complicated subject at least to me.

Thank you for your time

10th August 2005, 12:20 PM	#2
Lei Shen Dao Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 43	Thank you very much Satria Mmmm, I see. So the pamor is was wutah and the power inside is pengayoman maybe. In a Google search I've done some days ago, I found something for Pengayoman in a Keris or Inonesian site but I couldn't read it because of the language. Don't get me wrong about the tuah matter, but I have my reasons. So, a keris may have the power of the pamor (luck etc, for was wutah) and maybe an extra power for the owner that ordered it (Pengayoman)... Of cource I can't see resemblances with Jor_El's keris, but I am not an expert. Satria, it seems like wayang (thanks for the infos about that) in photos 3,4. Near the gandik (I hope I say it correct) and ganja, it seems like a "dervish" with hands above his head and a dress clothes. Of cource could be my imagination, but it is interesting that Alam saw something like that too. Sorry for the many questions, but keris is a very complicated subject at least to me. Thank you for your time Last edited by Lei Shen Dao; 10th August 2005 at 07:28 PM.

10th August 2005, 10:50 AM	#1
Satria Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	About Dapur and Pamor, I agree with Alam Shah. In my opinion, that pamor both sides are Wos Wutah. But sorry, I am stiil not find about the figure of wayang on both sides .. @ thread starter Wayang is puppet. In Indoenesia especially in Jawa wayang is so famous. The famous one is shadow puppet.I like wyang so much hehehe. In my life I never heard about kind of pamoor which called " pangayoman ". I think "pangayoman" is the function of pamor ( magical power ). Sorry if I make mistake, please another members correct me.