A VERY Strange Sword: What is it and where is it from??!!

ariel · 18th December 2011, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan S.

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Freudian slip? :-) :-)

Stan S. · 18th December 2011, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Freudian slip? :-) :-)

Yes, LOL

CharlesS · 28th December 2011, 01:24 PM

I am getting the impression that most are as perplexed by this one as I am!

Stan S. · 28th December 2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

I am getting the impression that most are as perplexed by this one as I am!

Its a Ram Dao or something very similar - it has to be! Perhaps a sacrificial sword from elsewhere in India? This still does not explain islamic features but that would be the best guess

Also, I have in my collection a sword showing identical damascus pattern on the blade, which is undoubtely of Indian manufacture, and while the blade is of a distinctly different shape (spatulate), it may not be too far fetched if they both originate from the same locale.

A.alnakkas · 28th December 2011, 04:40 PM

Hello,

The hilt is defintely turkish in style. It could be a state gift ram dao that got rehilted in a turkish style?:P just guessing hehe

RSWORD · 28th December 2011, 10:20 PM

When thinking about Ottoman influences in Indian arms one might look at the Coorgi(sp?) as a possibility. The Ottomans had extensive involvement there from the 16th century onward. Matter of fact, years ago I had a very nice Ayda Katti that had a rather Turkish crescent moon on the handle. Matter of fact, when you look at the Ayda Katti it also has a somewhat downturned blade like this example. I believe many of the Ayda Katti also have checkered grips. Maybe this is a Coorg sword?

Berkley · 29th December 2011, 12:37 AM

I think it possible that the symbols are variants of the classic Nepalese surya and chandra (sun and moon) symbols.

Gavin Nugent · 29th December 2011, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RSWORD

When thinking about Ottoman influences in Indian arms one might look at the Coorgi(sp?) as a possibility. The Ottomans had extensive involvement there from the 16th century onward. Matter of fact, years ago I had a very nice Ayda Katti that had a rather Turkish crescent moon on the handle. Matter of fact, when you look at the Ayda Katti it also has a somewhat downturned blade like this example. I believe many of the Ayda Katti also have checkered grips. Maybe this is a Coorg sword?

Good call Rick.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 30th December 2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RSWORD

When thinking about Ottoman influences in Indian arms one might look at the Coorgi(sp?) as a possibility. The Ottomans had extensive involvement there from the 16th century onward. Matter of fact, years ago I had a very nice Ayda Katti that had a rather Turkish crescent moon on the handle. Matter of fact, when you look at the Ayda Katti it also has a somewhat downturned blade like this example. I believe many of the Ayda Katti also have checkered grips. Maybe this is a Coorg sword?

Salaams RSWORD ~ I am well out of my comfort zone on this item however it does look South Indian/ Malibari and I understand the Coorg is the national weapon there but... its a quite different shape. Coorgs are like inverted kukri? sickle blades, quite squat~ to my understanding. The grip is clearly a two hander. This looks like a very formidable first strike sort of weapon and my first thoughts were executioners !

Is it not Malaysian or Indonesian? The star and moon is Islamic but which area?... It looks orientalish... Nice to see ..
Salaams,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

29th December 2011, 12:37 AM	#7
Berkley Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas USA Posts: 257	I think it possible that the symbols are variants of the classic Nepalese surya and chandra (sun and moon) symbols. Attached Images

28th December 2011, 01:24 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	I am getting the impression that most are as perplexed by this one as I am!

28th December 2011, 04:40 PM	#5
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Hello, The hilt is defintely turkish in style. It could be a state gift ram dao that got rehilted in a turkish style?:P just guessing hehe

28th December 2011, 10:20 PM	#6
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,087	When thinking about Ottoman influences in Indian arms one might look at the Coorgi(sp?) as a possibility. The Ottomans had extensive involvement there from the 16th century onward. Matter of fact, years ago I had a very nice Ayda Katti that had a rather Turkish crescent moon on the handle. Matter of fact, when you look at the Ayda Katti it also has a somewhat downturned blade like this example. I believe many of the Ayda Katti also have checkered grips. Maybe this is a Coorg sword?