Wilah from?

Harley · 4th December 2011, 04:55 PM

Hello Sajen,

I really don't no, my father in law gave it to me 20 years ago to make a very stable workbench

, but now i have a better use for it.
The only thing i can tell you that it is hardwood, en i can remember that there was a stamp on from Indonesia.
Thats all i know about it, sorry.

regards,
Ben

Harley · 4th December 2011, 09:52 PM

I hope i am still on the right track, if not i hope you will let me know.
Tomorrow i start with the gandar, and if it fits, then i can do the final finish of the sheath, but thats gone take some time.

regards,
Ben

A. G. Maisey · 4th December 2011, 10:04 PM

Looks OK to me Ben.

The central rib that runs up the front of the atasan should ideally align with the center of the pesi. They often don't, and its no big deal if they don't, but experienced tukang wrongkos will always try to achieve this.

Harley · 4th December 2011, 10:19 PM

Thanks Mr Maisey,

The rib and curls are not ready jet, i rather leave everything a little bit thicker,
so it's not easily broken, if everything is almost done then i can fine tune it.
I have drilled a hole at the middle of the sheet that aligns with the rib, so hopefully i can achieve that, thanks for the tip!

Harley · 6th December 2011, 09:37 PM

This is were i am now, the curls and the hole sheath need a lot of sanding, with polish sandpaper before i can try the pelet.
In the old sheath the wilah didn't go all the way in, in the new sheath let em drop a little further, but not all the way.
I don't no if thats normal for Bali sheaths?

regards Ben

A. G. Maisey · 6th December 2011, 09:56 PM

Very good Harley, but the fit of the blade is incorrect.

The curve of the top of the gonjo needs to be the same as the curve of the top of the atasan.

It can be exactly level with the top of the atasan or it can sit a bit higher than the top of the atasan, which is the old style way of fitting a Bali blade, but the sirah cecak cannot sit higher than the atasan, as you have it at the moment.

If it is impossible to get the curve of the top of the atasan the same as the curve of the top of the gonjo, it is preferable to sink the blade into the atasan, so that the sirah cecak is exactly level and the buntut urang is below the top of the atasan.

Another solution where exact alignment cannot be managed is to sit the blade so that both buntut urang and sirah cecak are dead level with the top of the atasan, and the center section of the gonjo sits a little bit high.

The one thing that is absolutely unacceptable is to have the sirah cecak sitting higher than the top of the atasan, as you have it at the moment.

Putting aside things that you could not be expected to know, the overall form is very, very good. Your craftsmanship appears to be excellent, based upon what I can see in the photo.

Harley · 6th December 2011, 10:31 PM

Mr Maisey,

First of all thank you for giving a honest reply, cause thats the way for me to learn.
I think i can make the gonjo line up with the atasan, i have don a little sanding, and it's not exactly the right curve, but it's no problem to fix that.
I alway leave the fine tunning till the last, so i can do some adjusting.
Thank you for the compliment, but i think the only thing i have is a little more patience then some of us.

regards,
Ben

Sajen · 7th December 2011, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Putting aside things that you could not be expected to know, the overall form is very, very good. Your craftsmanship appears to be excellent, based upon what I can see in the photo.

This I only can confirm! Also from me a great compliment to your craftmanship!

Regards,

Detlef

4th December 2011, 09:52 PM	#2
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	I hope i am still on the right track, if not i hope you will let me know. Tomorrow i start with the gandar, and if it fits, then i can do the final finish of the sheath, but thats gone take some time. regards, Ben Attached Images

6th December 2011, 09:37 PM	#5
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	This is were i am now, the curls and the hole sheath need a lot of sanding, with polish sandpaper before i can try the pelet. In the old sheath the wilah didn't go all the way in, in the new sheath let em drop a little further, but not all the way. I don't no if thats normal for Bali sheaths? regards Ben Attached Images

6th December 2011, 10:31 PM	#7
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	Mr Maisey, First of all thank you for giving a honest reply, cause thats the way for me to learn. I think i can make the gonjo line up with the atasan, i have don a little sanding, and it's not exactly the right curve, but it's no problem to fix that. I alway leave the fine tunning till the last, so i can do some adjusting. Thank you for the compliment, but i think the only thing i have is a little more patience then some of us. regards, Ben Attached Images

4th December 2011, 04:55 PM	#1
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	Hello Sajen, I really don't no, my father in law gave it to me 20 years ago to make a very stable workbench , but now i have a better use for it. The only thing i can tell you that it is hardwood, en i can remember that there was a stamp on from Indonesia. Thats all i know about it, sorry. regards, Ben

4th December 2011, 10:04 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,013	Looks OK to me Ben. The central rib that runs up the front of the atasan should ideally align with the center of the pesi. They often don't, and its no big deal if they don't, but experienced tukang wrongkos will always try to achieve this.

4th December 2011, 10:19 PM	#4
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	Thanks Mr Maisey, The rib and curls are not ready jet, i rather leave everything a little bit thicker, so it's not easily broken, if everything is almost done then i can fine tune it. I have drilled a hole at the middle of the sheet that aligns with the rib, so hopefully i can achieve that, thanks for the tip!

6th December 2011, 09:56 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,013	Very good Harley, but the fit of the blade is incorrect. The curve of the top of the gonjo needs to be the same as the curve of the top of the atasan. It can be exactly level with the top of the atasan or it can sit a bit higher than the top of the atasan, which is the old style way of fitting a Bali blade, but the sirah cecak cannot sit higher than the atasan, as you have it at the moment. If it is impossible to get the curve of the top of the atasan the same as the curve of the top of the gonjo, it is preferable to sink the blade into the atasan, so that the sirah cecak is exactly level and the buntut urang is below the top of the atasan. Another solution where exact alignment cannot be managed is to sit the blade so that both buntut urang and sirah cecak are dead level with the top of the atasan, and the center section of the gonjo sits a little bit high. The one thing that is absolutely unacceptable is to have the sirah cecak sitting higher than the top of the atasan, as you have it at the moment. Putting aside things that you could not be expected to know, the overall form is very, very good. Your craftsmanship appears to be excellent, based upon what I can see in the photo.