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3rd December 2011, 12:18 AM
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Two Portuguese bronze breech-loading cannon pieces, early 16th c. each, and obviously two from a series.
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3rd December 2011, 05:02 AM
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HERE ARE A FEW MORE PICTURES, HOPEFULLY NOT POSTED ALREADY., TWO PICTURES OF A OLD PRINT. AND DRAWING SHOWING LOAD FOR GUN.
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3rd December 2011, 05:55 PM
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Hi Vandoo,
Thank you so much for this period artwork. Although the illustration posted by you is from the 18th c. it shows that the breech-loading guns of the time were only barely more evolved compared to those of 300 years ago.  Best, Michael |
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6th July 2013, 07:32 PM
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Bolek Maciaszczyk is making this very neat and rare self spanning wheel lock.
It is most likely the first of its kind with a ton of research, tweaking and days without sleep. The first film about this lock is finnaly here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cchjjwXuVdQ you can find the barrel here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FajYgHQI8aA Bolek thanks everyone that has helped him with his research and the comments. (Bolek forgot his pasword so i am posting this on his behalf) |
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20th July 2013, 06:20 PM
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The lock working, made by Bolek Maciaszczyk!!!
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/search.php? The system works perfect, it is strong and makes a lot of sparks and guarentees to set of your main charge with eas |
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23rd July 2013, 08:08 AM
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(wrong link in previous post)
The lock working, made by Bolek Maciaszczyk!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtlYa...pGjs_VuLPYLRkg The system works perfect, it is strong and makes a lot of sparks and guarentees to set of your main charge with eas |
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4th August 2013, 10:55 PM
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Outstanding, Marcus; thanks for sharing.
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20th August 2013, 10:52 PM
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Very impressive Marcus. Thanks for posting.
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3rd December 2011, 06:12 PM
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I have found that the attribution of Portuguese'ship to some types of bronze canonry must be an added value, judging by how they baptize numberless examples in Commercial websites  
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3rd December 2011, 06:21 PM
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Hi 'Nando,
I just adopted the assignment given by the auction house; of course I am not certain about their actual provenance. Your input is all the more valuable in this context.  Anyway, my opinion, though usually as well based as possible and backed up by more than 30 years of experience, is far from claiming to be a rule. I realize there are people out there who are able to add amendments. I only wish they would do that after all! All I've been hoping for when starting this has been a lively discussion!  Still hoping for the best, Michl
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4th December 2011, 08:47 AM
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Regarding the staff in Spiridonov's posts # 85-86: cannons may well reflect architecture of the period, but the staff - a.k.a. "pilgrim's staff" - is actually a weapon of its own with the ball forming a pommel and a handgaurd. The size is about the same as two-handed sword and deployment is a simplified version of fencing (no edge alignment, no trapping with the guard).
Attached is another publication photo from 1978 of a different breech loader from the coast of Israel, bronze barrel with iron breech. The second photo shows the same cannon today (bottom), with another one made of iron. |
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4th December 2011, 04:20 PM
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Thanks a lot for this interesting addition!
Best, Michael |
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28th October 2012, 10:38 PM
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Hi all. I want to present you a painting of spanish artist Bartolomé Bermejo "Resurrection and the Descent of Christ" (about 1475). This picture is unique because we can see very rare case for XV century when firearms is presented on a religious theme painting. We can usually see the firearms on miniatures of chronics, technical books or arsenal inventors but not on religious story picture except of rare cases. But the main feature of this work of art is fact that hangonne held by the demon is breech loading! The barrel is similar to barrels of big breech loading guns of XV century with the typical replaceable powder chamber but much smaller than these. We can even see the breech handle.
I've taken the picture from flickr album of Andrea Carloni http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrea_...n/photostream/ p/s Thanks to my ukrainian friend (Глеб Борисов/Gleb Borisov) who found this picture Last edited by Spiridonov; 28th October 2012 at 10:53 PM. |
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29th October 2012, 01:06 PM
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Superb pictures, Alexander; thanks a lot for sharing them.
Say thanks to Глеб for bringing them to you. If you don't mind, i will post a close up of the soldiers with the edged weapons, which are also intereting ... but not so much as the handgonne . |
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