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Old 24th November 2011, 12:06 AM   #1
Gavin Nugent
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Since this thread had been revived and having a great interest in Indian swords, I would like to share a little theory of mine on the manufacture/decoration of tulwar hilts. This is based solely on inspecting a number of identically shaped hilts with greatly varying styles and quality of decoration, and on having a first hand experience dealing with small merchants and manufacturers in India.

As was pointed out by other members, I too would like to venture a guess that hilts, while made in quantity of different styles and sizes, were not embellished before the sale. A customer would choose a particular hilt and if his budget allowed, it would be sent to a coftgari artist (often operating next door to the hilt maker/swordsmith’s shop) where a design would be hand carved into the steel and inlaid with silver or gold. Hence a coftgari artist is essentially a jeweler. Alternatively, a buyer could save a bunch of rupees by going with a plain hilt. Considering a ridiculously low cost of labor (true to this day) and metal for plain hilts being readily available and inexpensive even in 17-19th century, the price difference between coftgrai vs. no-coftgari option must have been staggering. It is a concept not really changed by time, as there are still plenty of people who pay thousands of dollars for a piece of flashy jewelry. And in case of decorated tulwar hilts, we are looking at a piece of jewelry that is not only flashy but is also quite deadly
Some interesting insight there Stan, thanks for sharing.

My understanding of Koftgari application is somewhat different from carving in to the steel but rather an application of precious metals to a roughened surface as seen here done by one of our members;

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=koftgari

Bidri work involves the carving/chiseling of surfaces as does Zar Buland.
My understanding is the Bidri applications are finished flush with the surface of the object and the Zar Buland is raised well above the surface.

Lofty, Rick....but it is the topic of hilts in this thread, I don't want to cloud it with other aspects

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Old 24th November 2011, 03:36 AM   #2
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Gav,

Thank you for correcting me. You are right. There are a few different ways of applying gold or silver inlay. I got a little mixed up in trying to convey a point that inlay was probably done by a different "smith" from the one who made hilts. Even now in India coftgari artists are are a kind of specialized jewelers. They don't make swords but they decorate them working with precious metals rather than forging steel. Then again, this craft was also done on other metal items, such as high quality tablewear, etc., which stands as additional evidence of whoever applied coftgari/bidiri in teh past centuries did not work on weapons exclusively.
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Old 15th February 2012, 11:23 AM   #3
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Great Post, thanks for sharing , was a good read and learning curve for me
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