Would like to know your opinion about this carita blade

Sajen · 6th November 2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Yes, I fully agree with this interesting statement. But if we look to Malay keris, I found some keris term doesn't indicate as a signpost. Like, "carita" keris, in Malay term for instance. Why "carita"? Is there any meaning of "carita" in Malay term? Or it was originated from "carita" in Javanese term? And why it is a straight keris, and not wavy?
GANJAWULUNG

Interesting question I asked myself before. Maybe one of our Malay members can enlighten us?

Sajen · 6th November 2011, 04:43 PM

This is the sheath coming with the keris, the fit is very good and it is for sure a Malay sheat. But is it correct? There is an older repair at the bottom from the batang. Would this be an original ensemble? And which hilt I have to look for?

Detlef

David · 6th November 2011, 05:14 PM

Detlef, i couldn't tell you if the sheath is correct, but it looks like a beautiful chatoyant wood. I will say though that the pendokok is obviously not appropriate for the hilt.

Sajen · 6th November 2011, 06:34 PM

Hi David,

thank you for comment!

Yes, the hilt is wrong for the ensemble. It is an old wooden Coteng hilt coated with a thick layer of shellac or a other varnish.

Regards,

Detlef

PenangsangII · 8th November 2011, 12:09 AM

gajah tikor is a terminology of the Malays in Northern Peninsula (kelantan and pattani). Its a local Malay dialect, and I do not believe its included in the Malay dictionaries. As we all know, Malay tradition does not keeps records in writing, whether its a prasasti, lontara or even a book. Oral tradition passed down thru generations may result in the corruption of words and meaning. But its understood within the keris community from this part of the world, ''gajah tikor'' refers to the profile of matured tusk of a male elephant that has a curvy look. The Malays also call this type of keris as ''luk satu'' as the curve is refer to as a luk.

6th November 2011, 04:43 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,210	This is the sheath coming with the keris, the fit is very good and it is for sure a Malay sheat. But is it correct? There is an older repair at the bottom from the batang. Would this be an original ensemble? And which hilt I have to look for? Detlef Attached Images

6th November 2011, 06:34 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,210	Hi David, thank you for comment! Yes, the hilt is wrong for the ensemble. It is an old wooden Coteng hilt coated with a thick layer of shellac or a other varnish. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

8th November 2011, 12:09 AM	#5
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	gajah tikor gajah tikor is a terminology of the Malays in Northern Peninsula (kelantan and pattani). Its a local Malay dialect, and I do not believe its included in the Malay dictionaries. As we all know, Malay tradition does not keeps records in writing, whether its a prasasti, lontara or even a book. Oral tradition passed down thru generations may result in the corruption of words and meaning. But its understood within the keris community from this part of the world, ''gajah tikor'' refers to the profile of matured tusk of a male elephant that has a curvy look. The Malays also call this type of keris as ''luk satu'' as the curve is refer to as a luk.

6th November 2011, 05:14 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Detlef, i couldn't tell you if the sheath is correct, but it looks like a beautiful chatoyant wood. I will say though that the pendokok is obviously not appropriate for the hilt.