some Paiwan swords

varta · 3rd November 2011, 10:48 AM

With pleasure!
The proportions of the knives are not respected, sorry. The second one is very long and narrow ( sorry, I don't have the measurements here, but it is easy to compare), when the first one is 47cm x 3,2cm.
I do think that sharpening modified the shape of the blades and we should not be too dogmatic when considering a "pure Paiwan shape"…

varta · 21st November 2011, 10:07 PM

I just found this one on the website of the collection of the National Museum in Taiwan:

yuanzhumin · 24th January 2012, 06:16 PM

Dear all,

Good to be back after a while away from the forum!

Thanks Rick for asking after me !

Great knives you have there, Victor! Old and very nice ones!

I do agree with you that Paiwan knives can have iron staples or a carved metal sheet on their open scabbard side. I noticed that the working knives are mostly with staples and the ceremonial ones with metal sheet. But there are always exceptions.

Paiwan blades can be curved or with an angle at their tip. It's mostly depending on the shape of the original blade used/recycled. Definitely, there are more of them with an angle tip

But I'm not sure that the thinnest is the oldest, and I think that there is no rule in this matter. But I stand to be corrected.

All the best,

Nicolas

3rd November 2011, 10:48 AM	#1
varta Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Berlin-Paris Posts: 37	With pleasure! The proportions of the knives are not respected, sorry. The second one is very long and narrow ( sorry, I don't have the measurements here, but it is easy to compare), when the first one is 47cm x 3,2cm. I do think that sharpening modified the shape of the blades and we should not be too dogmatic when considering a "pure Paiwan shape"… Attached Images

21st November 2011, 10:07 PM	#2
varta Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Berlin-Paris Posts: 37	I just found this one on the website of the collection of the National Museum in Taiwan: Attached Images

24th January 2012, 06:16 PM	#3
yuanzhumin Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ex-Taipei, Taiwan, now in Shanghai, China Posts: 180	Dear all, Good to be back after a while away from the forum! Thanks Rick for asking after me ! Great knives you have there, Victor! Old and very nice ones! I do agree with you that Paiwan knives can have iron staples or a carved metal sheet on their open scabbard side. I noticed that the working knives are mostly with staples and the ceremonial ones with metal sheet. But there are always exceptions. Paiwan blades can be curved or with an angle at their tip. It's mostly depending on the shape of the original blade used/recycled. Definitely, there are more of them with an angle tip But I'm not sure that the thinnest is the oldest, and I think that there is no rule in this matter. But I stand to be corrected. All the best, Nicolas