KERIS BLADE

GIO · 30th October 2011, 04:31 PM

[QUOTE=Sajen]Is someone able to name the pamor?

Ngulit Semangka ?

Sajen · 30th October 2011, 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=GIO]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Is someone able to name the pamor?
Ngulit Semangka ?

Thank you, my first impression as well but maybe it's more specific?

Regards,

Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 30th October 2011, 10:50 PM

I'd call it wos wutah, and I believe most people I know in Solo would say the same.

All these random pamors can be classified and classified and classified again.

You can come up with any number of names for wos wutah, and I've noticed that in recent years we seem to have a lot more names to choose from.

I wouldn't give it as ngulit semangko because it is just not coarse enough --- that's the only difference between ngulit semangko and wos wutah:- the number of layers, they're both made in the same way.

Sajen · 31st October 2011, 07:42 AM

Thank you Alan,

for myself is wos wutah entirely ok. The pamor is nice and well controlled so it's equal which name it has.

Regards,

Detlef

GIO · 1st November 2011, 07:05 PM

Sajen, sorry for the wrong appreciation: I am not a great expert.
The keris is really nice, and the etching is very good.

PenangsangII · 2nd November 2011, 06:50 AM

This keris looks very well made, but I'll need to ask, especially to Alan.

What are the characteristics of a keris made inside the kraton? If there is any pic of kraton keris of similar dapur / pamor / tangguh, I would really like to see it for camparison. Thanking you in advance.

PenangsangII · 2nd November 2011, 07:02 AM

I have another keris of different dapur, and different tangguh, claimed by the seller as a kraton piece. unfortunately its not of Surakarta Hadiningrat. My piece was claimed to be of Sri Manganti Hall, Ngayogyakarta Hadiningrat during HBV era.

2nd November 2011, 07:02 AM	#7
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	I have another keris of different dapur, and different tangguh, claimed by the seller as a kraton piece. unfortunately its not of Surakarta Hadiningrat. My piece was claimed to be of Sri Manganti Hall, Ngayogyakarta Hadiningrat during HBV era. Attached Images

30th October 2011, 04:31 PM	#1
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 331	[QUOTE=Sajen]Is someone able to name the pamor? Ngulit Semangka ?

30th October 2011, 10:50 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,084	I'd call it wos wutah, and I believe most people I know in Solo would say the same. All these random pamors can be classified and classified and classified again. You can come up with any number of names for wos wutah, and I've noticed that in recent years we seem to have a lot more names to choose from. I wouldn't give it as ngulit semangko because it is just not coarse enough --- that's the only difference between ngulit semangko and wos wutah:- the number of layers, they're both made in the same way.

31st October 2011, 07:42 AM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	Thank you Alan, for myself is wos wutah entirely ok. The pamor is nice and well controlled so it's equal which name it has. Regards, Detlef

1st November 2011, 07:05 PM	#5
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 331	Sajen, sorry for the wrong appreciation: I am not a great expert. The keris is really nice, and the etching is very good.

2nd November 2011, 06:50 AM	#6
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	This keris looks very well made, but I'll need to ask, especially to Alan. What are the characteristics of a keris made inside the kraton? If there is any pic of kraton keris of similar dapur / pamor / tangguh, I would really like to see it for camparison. Thanking you in advance.