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21st October 2011, 07:35 AM
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A lovely piece and thanks for sharing.
In particular I like the thickened tip, a nice aspect not often shown. Gav |
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21st October 2011, 02:29 PM
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Ok, I seem to be alone with my opinion on the Sossun Pata, as I don’t believe it is from Deccan or Hyderabad, and nor do I believe it was Tipu’s pillow sword – yes, I know that no one claimed that it is.
The marks at the side of the head are not Bubris they are Cintamani markings. These Cintamani marks were used a lot in Ottoman Empire and in Persia for decoration, and also in countries under Persian influence – the Mughal Empire. I believe it to be Rajasthani. The fact that the hilt is made of brass does not mean it is from Deccan, as brass hilts were also made in Rajasthan and even in Afghanistan. It is true that they more often used brass hilts in Deccan, but that is not any proof. The floral decoration on the hilt is to me more Rajasthani than it is Deccani, and the fact that the pommel and the ends of the quillons are Makara heads, points more to Rajasthan than to Deccan. The Makara, a fable amphibian animal, was used far more to the north than in Deccan, where they mostly used the fable ‘tiger/lion’ Wyali/Yali/Yarli. To this comes that the blade is from the north with its reinforced tip. It is difficult to judge the age from a picture, but my guess would be 18th to early 19th century. Jens |
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21st October 2011, 07:18 PM
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AJ - Thanks again for both the partial translation and for the attempted read of my (bad) reconstruction...
 Gav - Thanks mate... I'm including below a photo of the thickened tip. Jens - Thank you for your input. For my own edification, are there examples of similar Cintamani motifs you can point me towards? A cursory search turned up nothing but tri-lobes and wavy lines, though by contrast, I've found examples of similarly-executed bubri motif...  I'm also curious about the stripes (in the form of linear striations) that appear on the back of the makara head (and ears) - which I'll have to photograph and upload - and how (if at all) their appearance might affect your interpretation of the motif on the (sides of the) makara head. In the meantime, I've included another photo below with the area in question circled for the clarity of other forumites. Cheers, Chris |
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22nd October 2011, 02:36 AM
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Below is one of the examples I have found with a bubri motif I think resembles the motif on my own example (on the lateral surfaces of the pommel as circled above). It is the pommel of a pesh kabz that sold earlier this year at Sotheby's. Dated to ca. 1790, it is described as having a bubri motif with a possible Seringapatam attribution.
Also, one of the questions I have had is whether the styling of the makara may serve as a clue to the origin of the sword, given the variety of stylistic differences that seem to appear in the form. I also find it interesting that the styling of the makara (on the chape) appears to bare some resemblance to my example with regards to the pronounced nasal ridge and the ribbing... Photos below... Bubri motif:  Makara chape:  Dagger:  Spine with recurring bubri:  Link to lot: Mysore Pesh Kabz ETA to add a photo showing the two motifs side-by-side:
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