Polish L-guard sword: restoration project

Gavin Nugent · 8th October 2011, 02:02 PM

Below is a stunning little 7" x 9" water colour in my collections.

I understand the artist is French and it is signed and dated from the start of the 19th century. Note the 'L' guard type sabre hung from the middle horseman.

The image is a little out of focus. When I have it returned from the gent who is conserving/cleaning it for me I'll try to show a little more detail on the sword.

I suspect at face value they are Polish or Lithuanian Tatars though I am sure artistic license abounds....feel free to correct my attribution.

Gav

Ypoznan · 9th October 2011, 08:41 AM

@broadaxe
Of course you're right. Let us return to the topic saber.

I would like to show you some pictures that show this type of sword. Photos come from the books and topics dealing with the Polish sword, therefore, are images that show has just Polish sabers. The information that I could find say that the sword such as used in both infantry and cavalry (hussars, even).

In the typology of penetrating marked influence each other and the formation of specific types of swords. In the middle window shows Polish uniforms (Polska), "Wschód" = east, "Zachód" = west.

Image is a replica saber hilt by Andrzej Mikiciuk. Drawings and typology of the books: Włodzimierz Kwaśniewicz "1000 słów o broni białej i uzbrojeniu ochronnym" (1000 words with melee weapons and protective armor) and Wojciech Zabłocki, "Cięcia prawdziwą szablą " (Cuts a real sword). Drawings showing the Polish infantry from the seventeenth century and the Polish nobleman found on the web.

Jim McDougall · 9th October 2011, 08:40 PM

Thank you so much Janusz for the outstanding detail in illustrations, and especially for citing the sources, something too often overlooked in contributions. Extremely impressive reproduction example posted, and my compliments on your text, knowing you are using a translator I can appreciate the extra effort in the dramatic syntax improvement.

All very best regards,
Jim

Ypoznan · 9th October 2011, 10:26 PM

Hi Jim

I just hope that my text is at least partly understandable. Unfortunately, the same I can not check.

broadaxe · 9th October 2011, 11:49 PM

Here is an old thread, close to the subject: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=759
And from another forum: http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewto...er=asc&start=0

http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewto...er=asc&start=0

Ypoznan · 10th October 2011, 02:47 AM

Szabla husarska (Hussar Saber) is without a doubt the queen of Polish sabers! Beautiful and highly functional. Besides an excellent weapon. But the most I like the final version, with the handle closed.
Great articles and texts. Thank you.

Ps. And if you liked my article about this sword? I'm curious opinion.

Evgeny_K · 5th November 2011, 10:26 PM

The first results of my work.

Pommel "before":

Evgeny_K · 5th November 2011, 10:27 PM

Pommel "after":

8th October 2011, 02:02 PM	#1
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Below is a stunning little 7" x 9" water colour in my collections. I understand the artist is French and it is signed and dated from the start of the 19th century. Note the 'L' guard type sabre hung from the middle horseman. The image is a little out of focus. When I have it returned from the gent who is conserving/cleaning it for me I'll try to show a little more detail on the sword. I suspect at face value they are Polish or Lithuanian Tatars though I am sure artistic license abounds....feel free to correct my attribution. Gav Attached Images

9th October 2011, 08:41 AM	#2
Ypoznan Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Poznan, Poland Posts: 16	@broadaxe Of course you're right. Let us return to the topic saber. I would like to show you some pictures that show this type of sword. Photos come from the books and topics dealing with the Polish sword, therefore, are images that show has just Polish sabers. The information that I could find say that the sword such as used in both infantry and cavalry (hussars, even). In the typology of penetrating marked influence each other and the formation of specific types of swords. In the middle window shows Polish uniforms (Polska), "Wschód" = east, "Zachód" = west. Image is a replica saber hilt by Andrzej Mikiciuk. Drawings and typology of the books: Włodzimierz Kwaśniewicz "1000 słów o broni białej i uzbrojeniu ochronnym" (1000 words with melee weapons and protective armor) and Wojciech Zabłocki, "Cięcia prawdziwą szablą " (Cuts a real sword). Drawings showing the Polish infantry from the seventeenth century and the Polish nobleman found on the web. Attached Images

5th November 2011, 10:26 PM	#7
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 213	The first results of my work. Pommel "before": Attached Images

5th November 2011, 10:27 PM	#8
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 213	Pommel "after": Attached Images

9th October 2011, 08:40 PM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,189	Thank you so much Janusz for the outstanding detail in illustrations, and especially for citing the sources, something too often overlooked in contributions. Extremely impressive reproduction example posted, and my compliments on your text, knowing you are using a translator I can appreciate the extra effort in the dramatic syntax improvement. All very best regards, Jim

9th October 2011, 10:26 PM	#4
Ypoznan Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Poznan, Poland Posts: 16	Hi Jim I just hope that my text is at least partly understandable. Unfortunately, the same I can not check.

9th October 2011, 11:49 PM	#5
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334	Here is an old thread, close to the subject: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=759 And from another forum: http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewto...er=asc&start=0 http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewto...er=asc&start=0

10th October 2011, 02:47 AM	#6
Ypoznan Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Poznan, Poland Posts: 16	Szabla husarska (Hussar Saber) is without a doubt the queen of Polish sabers! Beautiful and highly functional. Besides an excellent weapon. But the most I like the final version, with the handle closed. Great articles and texts. Thank you. Ps. And if you liked my article about this sword? I'm curious opinion.