Mendak

danny1976 · 24th September 2011, 12:00 PM

@ Detlef,

Yes i think also it's gold , i did not test it because i have the keris just a couple of day's but I'm 90 % sure it will be gold.

@ Mr Maisey.

Yes it's ok for me to show this keris , here some photo's maybe that will give the answer where this keris is from? To me it looks really big for a keris from East Java especially the hilt( . But the blade is Javanese to me , It's not cleaned yet so I hope it's ''clean'' enough to determinate .

PenangsangII · 24th September 2011, 12:51 PM

imho, your keris originated in Tuban (east Jawa)

danny1976 · 25th September 2011, 07:41 PM

@ PenangsangII

Thank's for your opinion , but what do you think of the mendak is it the good style for the keris ? That,s why i started this thread

David · 26th September 2011, 04:57 AM

Frankly Danny i am not sure that thus style of mendak looks correct with this hilt form.

GIO · 26th September 2011, 12:49 PM

The mendak seems suitable for the blade, but not for the hilt, which is balinese type.

Gustav · 26th September 2011, 01:42 PM

As I understand, there is lack of any serious documentation about East-Javanese keris. Despite this, it seems to me the whole ensemble could be original. Old keris is mostly nothing for purists. Regarding this hilt form, I am almost absolutely sure it can be found on East Java.

David · 26th September 2011, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GIO

The mendak seems suitable for the blade, but not for the hilt, which is balinese type.

I agree with Gustav that a variation on the Balinese bondolan hilt is known in East Java. If i am not mistaken it is generally a bit shorter and squatter than it's Balinese cousin as this one seems to appear.
I would still say that this mendak doesn't look quite right with it though...

DAHenkel · 26th September 2011, 03:21 PM

Wasn't there a thread some time not so far back about these pieces? I think s/o in the know said they were from Madura...made by Balinese migrants in a sort of hybrid style. There was one very nice one some years ago from a Polish museum which caused quite a stir and there is another very nice one in the Museum Nasional's collection in Jakarta that is pictured in Hamzuri.

24th September 2011, 12:00 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	@ Detlef, Yes i think also it's gold , i did not test it because i have the keris just a couple of day's but I'm 90 % sure it will be gold. @ Mr Maisey. Yes it's ok for me to show this keris , here some photo's maybe that will give the answer where this keris is from? To me it looks really big for a keris from East Java especially the hilt( . But the blade is Javanese to me , It's not cleaned yet so I hope it's ''clean'' enough to determinate . Attached Images

24th September 2011, 12:51 PM	#2
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	imho, your keris originated in Tuban (east Jawa)

25th September 2011, 07:41 PM	#3
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	@ PenangsangII Thank's for your opinion , but what do you think of the mendak is it the good style for the keris ? That,s why i started this thread

26th September 2011, 04:57 AM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,261	Frankly Danny i am not sure that thus style of mendak looks correct with this hilt form.

26th September 2011, 12:49 PM	#5
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 332	The mendak seems suitable for the blade, but not for the hilt, which is balinese type.

26th September 2011, 01:42 PM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,307	As I understand, there is lack of any serious documentation about East-Javanese keris. Despite this, it seems to me the whole ensemble could be original. Old keris is mostly nothing for purists. Regarding this hilt form, I am almost absolutely sure it can be found on East Java.

26th September 2011, 03:21 PM	#8
DAHenkel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 125	Wasn't there a thread some time not so far back about these pieces? I think s/o in the know said they were from Madura...made by Balinese migrants in a sort of hybrid style. There was one very nice one some years ago from a Polish museum which caused quite a stir and there is another very nice one in the Museum Nasional's collection in Jakarta that is pictured in Hamzuri.