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Old 18th September 2011, 10:45 PM   #1
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I'm again here)

Jim, I'm very grateful for your very detailed and informative answer!
At one of Russian forums I've already heard that this is probably a Cossack's sword/saber. And interestingly enough, that this sword came to me from the Ukraine)

I forgot to specify at the beginning, that the pommel (drop-shaped top) is still remained.

I do not support reckless "restoration", so I'll try to be very gentle)
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Old 20th September 2011, 04:14 AM   #2
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I'm again here)

Jim, I'm very grateful for your very detailed and informative answer!
At one of Russian forums I've already heard that this is probably a Cossack's sword/saber. And interestingly enough, that this sword came to me from the Ukraine)

I forgot to specify at the beginning, that the pommel (drop-shaped top) is still remained.

I do not support reckless "restoration", so I'll try to be very gentle)

Evgeny, Im very glad to see you back! Too often someone will pop in with a query and then be gone. As noted I feared you had 'left the building' due to the tardy response, so thank you for returning.

It is a very nice sabre you have posted, and as I have indicated, the results of research some years ago concerning swords of the Zaporozhian cossacks
suggest these Polish sabres are known among those used in the Ukraine.
From the tone of your posts, I knew you would favor reasonable degree in restoration and appreciate your diligence in seeking detail.

Please keep us posted here of your progress, it is good to see old warriors properly cared for.

All the best,
Jim
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Old 22nd September 2011, 10:28 AM   #3
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Old 23rd September 2011, 06:09 AM   #4
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Well posted illustration Evgeny!!! Thank you, shows these sabres in context.
Which of the Osprey publications is this from?

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Old 24th September 2011, 07:27 AM   #5
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Well posted illustration Evgeny!!! Thank you, shows these sabres in context.
Which of the Osprey publications is this from?

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Hello Jim,
I don't actually know - found this picture while googling.
Now trying to find the link.
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Old 24th September 2011, 12:20 PM   #6
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Cornelistromp:
Can you source the publication where your example was published and the validation of dating?
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Old 24th September 2011, 12:26 PM   #7
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Once again we are arguing about the permissible extent of restoration:-)


We have seen a lot of examples of restored Moro swords on this Forum ( the first example that comes to my mind). Why adding a new scabbard, handle, silver parts etc. to them is OK, while here it is not?

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Old 25th September 2011, 03:01 PM   #8
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Cornelistromp:
Can you source the publication where your example was published and the validation of dating?
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Ubokite Ostrice ( national museum zagreb) by Mario Kovac
isbn 953-6443-73-4

and the dating in my post #10 is wrong, it must be turn of the 17th and 18thC. 1690-1710 ( not end of 16th and early 17th).
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Old 1st October 2011, 09:36 PM   #9
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Hello Jim,
I don't actually know - found this picture while googling.
Now trying to find the link.

http://swordmaster.org/2010/10/05/bi...elnickogo.html
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Old 4th October 2011, 06:16 PM   #10
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Hi Evgeny, thank you so much for retreiving the source and sharing the link. Also, thank you again for posting here and sharing this fascinating sabre!
All the very best,
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