A possible Schiavona ancestor

Norman McCormick · 6th September 2011, 04:32 PM

Hi Fernando,
Will you be getting a 'display stand' like this for your Schiavona?

My Regards,
Norman.

fernando · 6th September 2011, 05:25 PM

Hi Norman,
We don't have this type of stands in local stores. Can you organize one and send it over ?

... I'll pay you in kind

Matchlock · 6th September 2011, 08:35 PM

Oh come on, 'Nando,

I remember some fine stands you made - you could easily build Norman's!

Best,
Michl

fernando · 6th September 2011, 08:55 PM

It's not a question of putting one up, Michl, but that of a certain difficulty in acquiring the right raw materials

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Matchlock · 6th September 2011, 10:08 PM

Brilliant!!!! I'm afraid though I can't help you out either.

fernando · 8th September 2011, 05:35 PM

The sword has arrived.
No point in posting more pictures as, the ones already posted, copied from the seller's website, are rather good and faithful and i could do no better.
The point of balance is quite close to the hilt (4 cms.), naturaly due to both the intricate iron basket and (beautiful) pommel weight.
The fissure (crack) on the blade is not dramatic; is more uncomfortable to the eyes than to actual debilitation potential.
Nevertheless, i will conveniently adopt the term "old warrior" for this piece. Two of the hilt branch ends are loose, although the whole guard setup still feels rather solid. It also looks as if the blade was subject to a straightening process.
On the other hand, a sword of this category, in prime condition, would cost two to three times as much, an horizon i can't reach.
But overall it looks like a great piece, with its large slice of mystic.
Now, i would like to ask you guys for an opinion:
The problem is that i am not managing to digest the looks of that broken tip.
Bearing in mind that:
1 - The blade presently measures 84,5 cms (33") to the crossguard, or 80,5cms (32") to the hilt.
2 - Its fuller just about ends slightly before the broken tip end.
3 - Unless compared with a similar (equal) sword example is hard to know the length of the missingh part; some two inches ?
Question:
Would you try and reshape its tip?
... More pointy, more gothic, more round ?
Or should i just leave it as it is and get accomodated with time coming ?
Thanks for your cooperation.

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Iain · 8th September 2011, 08:46 PM

Very nice sword, I've been admiring the pictures over the last couple days. I just wanted to quickly jump in to say, leave the tip as is!

I usually go through a process with almost every new purchase where I find something "wrong" and obsess about it for a few weeks. Then I stop noticing it over time.

I think trying to "fix" antiques is a slippery slope and re profiling the tip will just lead to the lose of material and disturbing a rather well developed patina.

Looks great to me as it is.

6th September 2011, 04:32 PM	#1
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi Fernando, Will you be getting a 'display stand' like this for your Schiavona? My Regards, Norman. Attached Images

8th September 2011, 05:35 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Seeking advice The sword has arrived. No point in posting more pictures as, the ones already posted, copied from the seller's website, are rather good and faithful and i could do no better. The point of balance is quite close to the hilt (4 cms.), naturaly due to both the intricate iron basket and (beautiful) pommel weight. The fissure (crack) on the blade is not dramatic; is more uncomfortable to the eyes than to actual debilitation potential. Nevertheless, i will conveniently adopt the term "old warrior" for this piece. Two of the hilt branch ends are loose, although the whole guard setup still feels rather solid. It also looks as if the blade was subject to a straightening process. On the other hand, a sword of this category, in prime condition, would cost two to three times as much, an horizon i can't reach. But overall it looks like a great piece, with its large slice of mystic. Now, i would like to ask you guys for an opinion: The problem is that i am not managing to digest the looks of that broken tip. Bearing in mind that: 1 - The blade presently measures 84,5 cms (33") to the crossguard, or 80,5cms (32") to the hilt. 2 - Its fuller just about ends slightly before the broken tip end. 3 - Unless compared with a similar (equal) sword example is hard to know the length of the missingh part; some two inches ? Question: Would you try and reshape its tip? ... More pointy, more gothic, more round ? Or should i just leave it as it is and get accomodated with time coming ? Thanks for your cooperation. . Attached Images

6th September 2011, 05:25 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Norman, We don't have this type of stands in local stores. Can you organize one and send it over ? ... I'll pay you in kind

6th September 2011, 08:35 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Oh come on, 'Nando, I remember some fine stands you made - you could easily build Norman's! Best, Michl

6th September 2011, 08:55 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	It's not a question of putting one up, Michl, but that of a certain difficulty in acquiring the right raw materials .

6th September 2011, 10:08 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Brilliant!!!! I'm afraid though I can't help you out either.

8th September 2011, 08:46 PM	#7
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,708	Very nice sword, I've been admiring the pictures over the last couple days. I just wanted to quickly jump in to say, leave the tip as is! I usually go through a process with almost every new purchase where I find something "wrong" and obsess about it for a few weeks. Then I stop noticing it over time. I think trying to "fix" antiques is a slippery slope and re profiling the tip will just lead to the lose of material and disturbing a rather well developed patina. Looks great to me as it is.