An Algerian musket ... and a translation needed?

LPCA · 1st August 2011, 05:49 PM

Hello friends, thanks for your comments.

No barrel being made in Algeria, they were imported.
They could be obtained by the offshore grips, but so much blades were reused or transformed , so much barrels were abandoned. Maybe for a question of length or for calibre? The barrels used by the Algerian were long and the calibre was normally 16 mm.

They imported 2 models of barrels:

Barbarin model (coming from the word Barbaresque)):
octogonal on all its length
mouth of the barrel in form of tulipe
North of Italy import via Genoa
generally signed near the thunder (Cominazzo, ...)

Janissairy model
Octagonal (thunder), then rounded off up to the mouth
Ottoman or Balkan import

I add that usually the Janissairy model is shorter than the Barbarin.

It seems that your barrel is a Janissairy type and the very good marks and writings seems to confirm it.

As for the ZERO (0):
The zero really appeared towards 870 in Indian papers.

In 3rd century, three centuries before the Indians, the Mayan had developed a system of numeration very pushed, based on the art of the calendar and the astronomy and with a numeration of position on base 20 and containing the zero.

Al-Khwarizmi (from Bagdad) published a book in 820, presenting the new Indian figures. This book will be translated by Robert de Chester into Spain at the beginning of XIIth century.

To resume, beyond the Mayan, the creation is Indian and the popularization is arabic.

See U.

Louis

fernando · 1st August 2011, 07:36 PM

Thank you so much for your encyclopedic knowledge on these guns, Louis-Pierre

Let me go and digest all such info !

1st August 2011, 05:49 PM	#1
LPCA Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toulouse - FRANCE Posts: 83	Hello friends, thanks for your comments. No barrel being made in Algeria, they were imported. They could be obtained by the offshore grips, but so much blades were reused or transformed , so much barrels were abandoned. Maybe for a question of length or for calibre? The barrels used by the Algerian were long and the calibre was normally 16 mm. They imported 2 models of barrels: Barbarin model (coming from the word Barbaresque)): octogonal on all its length mouth of the barrel in form of tulipe North of Italy import via Genoa generally signed near the thunder (Cominazzo, ...) Janissairy model Octagonal (thunder), then rounded off up to the mouth Ottoman or Balkan import I add that usually the Janissairy model is shorter than the Barbarin. It seems that your barrel is a Janissairy type and the very good marks and writings seems to confirm it. As for the ZERO (0): The zero really appeared towards 870 in Indian papers. In 3rd century, three centuries before the Indians, the Mayan had developed a system of numeration very pushed, based on the art of the calendar and the astronomy and with a numeration of position on base 20 and containing the zero. Al-Khwarizmi (from Bagdad) published a book in 820, presenting the new Indian figures. This book will be translated by Robert de Chester into Spain at the beginning of XIIth century. To resume, beyond the Mayan, the creation is Indian and the popularization is arabic. See U. Louis

1st August 2011, 07:36 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you so much for your encyclopedic knowledge on these guns, Louis-Pierre Let me go and digest all such info !