Nice Java Keris?

Jean · 2nd July 2011, 10:50 AM

Thank you Alan for the additional information and I fully understand your qualification, and will remember that the Gresik blades look greasy, haha!

Best regards
Jean

A. G. Maisey · 2nd July 2011, 11:20 AM

Feel greasy Jean.

Feel greasy.

Jean · 3rd July 2011, 11:18 AM

Hello Alan,
Thanks for the correction. Like may be other collectors I feel puzzled by these descriptions of blades feeling wet or dry or greasy to the touch, could you please elaborate a little about it?
Regarding the copy blades from Gresik, during which approximate period were they manufactured?
Thank you and best regards
Jean

A. G. Maisey · 3rd July 2011, 12:34 PM

Sorry Jean, the dating of Gresik manufacture is not a part of this belief system

In respect of "greasy". If you run your fingers over a normal old keris blade it will feel moderately rough and textured. If you run your fingers over an old Gresik blade there is a smooth, slippery feel to the metal, the surface does not catch your fingers like other blades do.

Jean · 3rd July 2011, 04:00 PM

Thank you very much Alan

sirek · 3rd July 2011, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

In respect of "greasy". If you run your fingers over a normal old keris blade it will feel moderately rough and textured. If you run your fingers over an old Gresik blade there is a smooth, slippery feel to the metal, the surface does not catch your fingers like other blades do.

When I began reading the explanation of greasy, I wanted to show this keris,
I always found it surface had a greasy look and feel, what I've never seen before in a keris.

I hope the pictures shows what I mean.

A. G. Maisey · 3rd July 2011, 11:21 PM

Very peculiar keris this one.

Boto adeg blumbangan, tiny kembang kacang that is out of proportion, odo2, pawakan reminiscent of Bugis, greneng that does not say anything at all about Jawa.

It looks as if it is in Javanese dress, but I rather doubt that this is a Javanese blade. Too many anomalies.

PenangsangII · 4th July 2011, 03:24 AM

does greasy mean "Nggajih"?

The straight blade with very prominent condong leleh looks very Sumatran to me, probably of Palembang or Lampung provenance. If the dress was original, then the closest to Jawa would be Cirebon. The ricikan is Sumatran of course.

2nd July 2011, 10:50 AM	#1
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Thank you Alan for the additional information and I fully understand your qualification, and will remember that the Gresik blades look greasy, haha! Best regards Jean

2nd July 2011, 11:20 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Feel greasy Jean. Feel greasy.

3rd July 2011, 11:18 AM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Alan, Thanks for the correction. Like may be other collectors I feel puzzled by these descriptions of blades feeling wet or dry or greasy to the touch, could you please elaborate a little about it? Regarding the copy blades from Gresik, during which approximate period were they manufactured? Thank you and best regards Jean

3rd July 2011, 12:34 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Sorry Jean, the dating of Gresik manufacture is not a part of this belief system In respect of "greasy". If you run your fingers over a normal old keris blade it will feel moderately rough and textured. If you run your fingers over an old Gresik blade there is a smooth, slippery feel to the metal, the surface does not catch your fingers like other blades do.

3rd July 2011, 04:00 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Thank you very much Alan

3rd July 2011, 11:21 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Very peculiar keris this one. Boto adeg blumbangan, tiny kembang kacang that is out of proportion, odo2, pawakan reminiscent of Bugis, greneng that does not say anything at all about Jawa. It looks as if it is in Javanese dress, but I rather doubt that this is a Javanese blade. Too many anomalies.

4th July 2011, 03:24 AM	#8
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	does greasy mean "Nggajih"? The straight blade with very prominent condong leleh looks very Sumatran to me, probably of Palembang or Lampung provenance. If the dress was original, then the closest to Jawa would be Cirebon. The ricikan is Sumatran of course.