Moro Kris

David · 29th June 2011, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I have seen other work like this from the 19th century from Sulu, but this is the only example I have in my arsenal to match.

And a very nice arsenal it is...

Spunjer · 29th June 2011, 08:02 AM

here's a photo of datu kalun and his family, sporting a similar type kris. datu kalun was a tagalog from cavite, (originally named pedro cuevas) who was a convict from the spaniard. on the way to zamboanga to do some jail time, he escaped and hid in Basilan. Yakans gave him a hard time, which led him to fight a local datu and ended up killing him. he converted to islam and eventually became the strongest datu in basilan. notice the mix of culture in that famil: the wife is wearing a shawl used by catholic known as mantilla, while his daughter next to him is holding a rosary, or tasbih, as the tausug would call it..
anyways, these kamagong ball type hilt (or any kamagong type hilt) are suppose to be popular on the southern part of sulu (tawi-tawi, bongao, etc.)
david, once i get the detail, i'll definitely let you know..

migueldiaz · 29th June 2011, 08:10 AM

detail of datu kalun's kris:

Spunjer · 29th June 2011, 10:08 AM

Wow! Thanks for da close up, bro. Beautiful!

Battara · 29th June 2011, 03:24 PM

Yeah great close up and pictures - Salamat bro!

Rick · 29th June 2011, 05:21 PM

Ron, that Maranao has wedges under both asang .

Funny, ain't it .

Maurice · 29th June 2011, 07:16 PM

I don't think this is of major interest to this thread, but I've an observation also about the asang-asang that could be of importance.
A Sulu kris I have bought a while ago, came to me in very poor condition, with very rusty blade, not cleaned in what way so ever, crosspiece broken and so on.

The asang-asang of this piece also looks like it moved off the place where it belonged to be.
But I'm almost sure that not anyone would have done some efforts to restore this piece according the condition it came with me...
If he would have taken time to restore the asang-asang, he would probably fix the whole kris totally!

So I guess the reason an asang-asang is off its place, doesn't mean it isn't the real asang-asang..

29th June 2011, 08:02 AM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	here's a photo of datu kalun and his family, sporting a similar type kris. datu kalun was a tagalog from cavite, (originally named pedro cuevas) who was a convict from the spaniard. on the way to zamboanga to do some jail time, he escaped and hid in Basilan. Yakans gave him a hard time, which led him to fight a local datu and ended up killing him. he converted to islam and eventually became the strongest datu in basilan. notice the mix of culture in that famil: the wife is wearing a shawl used by catholic known as mantilla, while his daughter next to him is holding a rosary, or tasbih, as the tausug would call it.. anyways, these kamagong ball type hilt (or any kamagong type hilt) are suppose to be popular on the southern part of sulu (tawi-tawi, bongao, etc.) david, once i get the detail, i'll definitely let you know.. Attached Images Last edited by Spunjer; 29th June 2011 at 10:07 AM.

29th June 2011, 08:10 AM	#3
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	detail of datu kalun's kris: Attached Images

29th June 2011, 05:21 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,338	Wedges Ron, that Maranao has wedges under both asang . Funny, ain't it .

29th June 2011, 07:16 PM	#7
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	I don't think this is of major interest to this thread, but I've an observation also about the asang-asang that could be of importance. A Sulu kris I have bought a while ago, came to me in very poor condition, with very rusty blade, not cleaned in what way so ever, crosspiece broken and so on. The asang-asang of this piece also looks like it moved off the place where it belonged to be. But I'm almost sure that not anyone would have done some efforts to restore this piece according the condition it came with me... If he would have taken time to restore the asang-asang, he would probably fix the whole kris totally! So I guess the reason an asang-asang is off its place, doesn't mean it isn't the real asang-asang.. Attached Images

29th June 2011, 10:08 AM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Wow! Thanks for da close up, bro. Beautiful!

29th June 2011, 03:24 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,276	Yeah great close up and pictures - Salamat bro!