Peninsular or Sumatra?

VVV · 19th June 2011, 05:16 PM

Thanks all so far,

Then I was wrong because I thought the hilt was a poorly made (in) Palembang.
The blade seems a bit tricky?

Michael

David · 19th June 2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV

Then I was wrong because I thought the hilt was a poorly made (in) Palembang.

Michael, even out of focus i am having a hard time accepting your hilt as "poorly made"...

Sajen · 19th June 2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Michael, even out of focus i am having a hard time accepting your hilt as "poorly made"...

Agree with David! When you don't like the hilt send it to me Michael!!

I think it's hippo ivory, can you confirm this?

Regards,

Detlef

Marcokeris · 19th June 2011, 07:31 PM

All very very nice. The blade is :

asomotif · 19th June 2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV

I thought the hilt was a poorly made (in) Palembang.

I am with David and Detlef.
Of course there are Palembang hilts that are carved much finer. But This hilt is very nice and it fits the ensemble quite well.

Love the pendokok.

Best regards,
Willem

DAHenkel · 20th June 2011, 12:00 AM

Kelantan or Terengganu dating to around 1920 - 1940. There was a craze in those days for innovation and hybrid styles abound. The Palembang style seems to have been particularly influential. The 'air-tangan' of the piece though is unmistakably Peninsular - so is the sheath, which is the debek style and very Kelantanese. In these days smallish keris for "formal" attire were popular and even today in Kota Bahru they call them keris selit because the fit just nicely into the waist of your sarong.

Super nice piece and absolutely all original. Another nice catch Michael...

Sajen · 20th June 2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DAHenkel

Kelantan or Terengganu dating to around 1920 - 1940. There was a craze in those days for innovation and hybrid styles abound. The Palembang style seems to have been particularly influential. The 'air-tangan' of the piece though is unmistakably Peninsular - so is the sheath, which is the debek style and very Kelantanese. In these days smallish keris for "formal" attire were popular and even today in Kota Bahru they call them keris selit because the fit just nicely into the waist of your sarong.

Super nice piece and absolutely all original. Another nice catch Michael...

Hello Dave,

is it normal that the blade stick out so much from the sarung?

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 20th June 2011, 02:33 AM

I'm not sure that the scabbard is original to the blade......

VVV · 20th June 2011, 09:24 AM

W, D&D, I just ment that it wasn't the same quality of carving as those found in Palembang. So I will keep it some more.

Thanks Dave for the additional information.
Do you have any ideas about the blade?
I agree that it is suspicious that the ganja doesn't fit at all the scabbard.

Michael

Gustav · 20th June 2011, 12:24 PM

I have an impression, the 20 cent. Peninsular keris have the gonjo more often completely out of sampir, it seems to be almost like a sort of proud extravagance.

The ensemble looks genuine to me.

19th June 2011, 05:16 PM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks all so far, Then I was wrong because I thought the hilt was a poorly made (in) Palembang. The blade seems a bit tricky? Michael

19th June 2011, 07:31 PM	#4
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	All very very nice. The blade is :

20th June 2011, 12:00 AM	#6
DAHenkel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 125	Kelantan or Terengganu dating to around 1920 - 1940. There was a craze in those days for innovation and hybrid styles abound. The Palembang style seems to have been particularly influential. The 'air-tangan' of the piece though is unmistakably Peninsular - so is the sheath, which is the debek style and very Kelantanese. In these days smallish keris for "formal" attire were popular and even today in Kota Bahru they call them keris selit because the fit just nicely into the waist of your sarong. Super nice piece and absolutely all original. Another nice catch Michael...

20th June 2011, 02:33 AM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I'm not sure that the scabbard is original to the blade......

20th June 2011, 09:24 AM	#9
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	W, D&D, I just ment that it wasn't the same quality of carving as those found in Palembang. So I will keep it some more. Thanks Dave for the additional information. Do you have any ideas about the blade? I agree that it is suspicious that the ganja doesn't fit at all the scabbard. Michael

20th June 2011, 12:24 PM	#10
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	I have an impression, the 20 cent. Peninsular keris have the gonjo more often completely out of sampir, it seems to be almost like a sort of proud extravagance. The ensemble looks genuine to me.