PESH KABZ DAGGER FOR COMMENT

Rick · 16th July 2005, 03:41 PM

This could be a late 19C. pesh .
I have a late 19thC. French kitchen knife with the same type of rivets that I purchased from Lee Valley Tools some years ago . They had found a large stock of unused antique cutlery and were selling it in their catalogue .

The mark on the blade is a devil running with a pitchfork .

Lew · 25th November 2005, 06:14 PM

Hi All

Well I finally received the pesh. It is quite stout the spine measures in around 7/16" the blade is 11" long it seems old but has been cleaned up nicely. It looks like it was forged from a large file or rasp there are still remnants of the file teeth in one part of the blade. Hear are a few pics for the record.

Lew

Ian · 25th November 2005, 08:00 PM

Hi Lew:

Like a choora -- but not quite. I wonder if this is a relatively recent Uzbeck or Pakistan knife. Or from a group thereabout. The cloth covering on the sheath is atypical for the usual Khyber knives, which have leather-covered wooden sheaths, and may offer a clue to its origins.

Interesting piece. Did this one come from Sue?

Ian.

Lew · 25th November 2005, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Hi Lew:

Like a choora -- but not quite. I wonder if this is a relatively recent Uzbeck or Pakistan knife. Or from a group thereabout. The cloth covering on the sheath is atypical for the usual Khyber knives, which have leather-covered wooden sheaths, and may offer a clue to its origins.

Interesting piece. Did this one come from Sue?

Ian.

Hi Ian

Yes it came from Sue. I don't think this is a recently made dagger there is quite a bit of age on the tang and the horn also has age I would place it's age around the begining of the 20th century to about 1920 but it could be as late as the 1940s its hard to say due to the cleaning. I did some tests on some heavy corrugated card board and it went through it with little effort. I would hate to be on the receiving end of this beasty

Lew

Lew

Tim Simmons · 25th November 2005, 08:36 PM

Hi Lew , the dagger looks great I am a little unsure of the scabbard. The material looks pretty new to be honest. Just my first impression. Tim

ariel · 25th November 2005, 09:15 PM

I am a bit puzzled about "Indian ricasso": all Khybers/karud I own start the edge right after the bolster.
Looks like Pakistani to me and not very old.

Lew · 25th November 2005, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

I am a bit puzzled about "Indian ricasso": all Khybers/karud I own start the edge right after the bolster.
Looks like Pakistani to me and not very old.

Ariel

The scabbard I agree is more recent but there is patina on the underside of the hilt that shows age I don't really think it is more than 60 years old but it is one mean razor sharp puppy and I am quite pleased with it. That is the problem with over cleaning stuff it makes it really hard to get a handle on it's age. The horn has the same patina as some of my WW2 Philippine bolos.

Lew

16th July 2005, 03:41 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,366	Rivets Same Style This could be a late 19C. pesh . I have a late 19thC. French kitchen knife with the same type of rivets that I purchased from Lee Valley Tools some years ago . They had found a large stock of unused antique cutlery and were selling it in their catalogue . The mark on the blade is a devil running with a pitchfork . Attached Images

25th November 2005, 06:14 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi All Well I finally received the pesh. It is quite stout the spine measures in around 7/16" the blade is 11" long it seems old but has been cleaned up nicely. It looks like it was forged from a large file or rasp there are still remnants of the file teeth in one part of the blade. Hear are a few pics for the record. Lew Attached Images

25th November 2005, 08:00 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,469	Nice find Hi Lew: Like a choora -- but not quite. I wonder if this is a relatively recent Uzbeck or Pakistan knife. Or from a group thereabout. The cloth covering on the sheath is atypical for the usual Khyber knives, which have leather-covered wooden sheaths, and may offer a clue to its origins. Interesting piece. Did this one come from Sue? Ian.

25th November 2005, 08:36 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,888	Hi Lew , the dagger looks great I am a little unsure of the scabbard. The material looks pretty new to be honest. Just my first impression. Tim

25th November 2005, 09:15 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I am a bit puzzled about "Indian ricasso": all Khybers/karud I own start the edge right after the bolster. Looks like Pakistani to me and not very old.