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[dooly]

Well all done bar the barrel .. looks like the lettering was silvered or something .. will think about what to do with it ..

all barricaded now just let the oil soak in and next the stock .. still need to work out if i should make it with a ramrod holder .. what do you think

[Nathaniel]

Hello Dooly,

Welcome to the forum!!

Nice post. It is quite interesting to see your documentation of the restoration. It is neat to see metal parts separate from the wooden stock. Thank you. I'm looking forward to seeing how it will progress. I'm curious if you where able to identify the type of wood originally used and what type of wood will you use then for the replacement?

Thanks!

[dooly]

Originally Posted by Nathaniel

Hello Dooly,

Welcome to the forum!!

Nice post. It is quite interesting to see your documentation of the restoration. It is neat to see metal parts separate from the wooden stock. Thank you. I'm looking forward to seeing how it will progress. I'm curious if you where able to identify the type of wood originally used and what type of wood will you use then for the replacement?

Thanks!

Thanks . not 100% on the wood as i dont think it was the original stock .. seemed to be a type of hardwood. it may have been made form an old English stock as it is simmiler grain to one of my 1870s shotguns.. for replacement i may try to use one of my old gun stocks .. or steamed beech which i will stain down .. this depends on the ramrod/no ramrod question .. and the thickness of wood required

all the best

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by dooly

Well all done bar the barrel .. looks like the lettering was silvered or something .. will think about what to do with it ..

all barricaded now just let the oil soak in and next the stock .. still need to work out if i should make it with a ramrod holder .. what do you think

If for instance it's Ottoman, then it may well not have had a ramrod (or have had a short 'false' one). Is there a recess on the original part of the stock in front of the trigger guard?

I'm suprised nobody has come in with an opinion of origin. I was thinking Ottoman?
What have you done so far? Cleaned with an etchant, and browned with heat and oil?

[stephen wood]

...I think the writing is Arabic - acid etched thuluth script.

[dooly]

Originally Posted by stephen wood

...I think the writing is Arabic - acid etched thuluth script.

thanks for the link i can see what you mean .. i was thinking it was Scriptures or something simmiler..

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by dooly

thanks for the link i can see what you mean .. i was thinking it was Scriptures or something simmiler..

Hello Dooly. Welcome to the Forum from a collector (and shooter) of antique Middle Eastern firearms. Sorry to hear about the stock. But it sounds like it was worth the purchase just to aquire the metal parts. Should be an interesting project. At first glance, looks Ottoman. But there are others on this forum that are knowledgable about the writings. As another said, most Ottoman pistols were made with what we call a "false" ramrod. Or no ramrod. They were usually loaded with a seperate metal rod called a Suma. I've never really understood why they would bother with a false ramrod? Anyway, welcome to the Forum!! Rick.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by stephen wood

...I think the writing is Arabic - acid etched thuluth script.

Hi
- YES, it's an Arabic writing
- YES, it's in Thuluth script
- it's a kind of poem

... but unfortunately too much complicated at translated
due to Thuluth script, excepted if my "Brother Lotfi" found the way

à +

Dom

[A.alnakkas]

Hello,

Yes I may manage to read it but the cylinder shape makes it very hard. Can you copy it on paper maybe? wrap a paper around it and copy it with a crayon.

Thuluth is generally difficult as they emphasize more on the artistic side then the meaningful so some words are incomplete and some may be just there for looks but will see.

regards,

Alnakkas

[dooly]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Hello,

Yes I may manage to read it but the cylinder shape makes it very hard. Can you copy it on paper maybe? wrap a paper around it and copy it with a crayon.

Thuluth is generally difficult as they emphasize more on the artistic side then the meaningful so some words are incomplete and some may be just there for looks but will see.

regards,

Alnakkas

Will do .. thanks

[dooly]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

If for instance it's Ottoman, then it may well not have had a ramrod (or have had a short 'false' one). Is there a recess on the original part of the stock in front of the trigger guard?

I'm suprised nobody has come in with an opinion of origin. I was thinking Ottoman?
What have you done so far? Cleaned with an etchant, and browned with heat and oil?

hi thanks for the response .. The script is very similer to "ottoman" coins i have in my collection .. but they have been no help to me..
Rust and blue removing solution then heat and plum brown with fast cooling then barricade oiling .. i have also spent the last couple of hours hand blueing the barrel .. to late to do pictures tonight and it is in the proofing oil .. will sort a picture out tomorrow .. then i guess i will start looking for the wood for the stock .. thanks for the response

all the best