SUASA Copper/Gold or Gold/Copper alloy

David · 26th May 2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

Hello Gavin,

your example would have been referred to as gold, even if it were a fairly low carat alloy. Suasa is supposed to have that copper hue but contain enough gold to avoid getting patinated when handled regularly. Basically, any yellow gold alloy (including "pure" gold) would be considered gold while red gold would be suasa (often at the low end of the carat scale).

Regards,
Kai

I am afraid that your judgement may not be accurate based solely on this photograph Kai. If the image isn't properly white balances hues can rage wildly.

A. G. Maisey · 26th May 2011, 08:43 PM

Yep. The camera lies. And since we got digicams and Photoshop, a lot more than it ever did previously.

kai · 28th May 2011, 02:42 AM

Hello David,

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I am afraid that your judgement may not be accurate based solely on this photograph Kai. If the image isn't properly white balances hues can rage wildly.

Sure, but do you see any hints for wrong balance settings here?

I have seen a few more pics of these pieces and am sure Gavin would correct us if our speculations would be off balance...

Regards,
Kai

Gavin Nugent · 28th May 2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

Hello David,

Sure, but do you see any hints for wrong balance settings here?

I have seen a few more pics of these pieces and am sure Gavin would correct us if our speculations would be off balance...

Regards,
Kai

As far as photography goes I only ever photoshopped two listings, that being the Sadap and the exotic SEA Hudiedao and I wasn't happy with either adjustments, all other photos presented here or on my site all natural via Sony :-).

I have looked close at both pieces and they share the same hues and contrast when revolved in the light. What might be considered copperish in one light, roll it another 1/2 and inch and it carries a gold hue. So I had to go a step further and I gave the spear wrapping a very good hard scratch test with a sharp knife to one edge and it was gold at every scratch so either is it a full gold/copper alloy compound or it is a brass wrapping with a gilding that has a copper undertone to it....I feel the former as the aspects of copper showing through are not restricted to copper showing through on wear points....

Your further thoughts guys...

VANDOO · 29th May 2011, 09:53 PM

PERHAPS A BIT OFF TOPIC BUT I THINK APPROPRIATE. BLACK HILLS GOLD JEWLRY BEGAN DURING THE GOLD RUSH IN 1876 TO 1878. TRADITIONALLY IT IS MADE IN THREE COLORS. A SILVER AND GOLD MIX THAT COMES OUT A GREENISH HUE. COPPER AND GOLD MIX REFERED TO AS ROSE (IT CAN VARY FROM MORE RED TO PINK.) AND REGULAR YELLOW GOLD COLOR. SOMETHING REFERED TO AS WHITE GOLD IS ALSO USED IN JEWLRY. SEE PICTURE OF EXAMPLES OF BLACK HILLS GOLD IN TRI COLOR.
GOOGLE BLACK HILLS GOLD FOR MORE INFO IF INTERESTED

Battara · 30th May 2011, 12:25 AM

Actually I think "green" gold has zinc instead of silver..............

Nice pictures though and correct on rose gold.

29th May 2011, 09:53 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	PERHAPS A BIT OFF TOPIC BUT I THINK APPROPRIATE. BLACK HILLS GOLD JEWLRY BEGAN DURING THE GOLD RUSH IN 1876 TO 1878. TRADITIONALLY IT IS MADE IN THREE COLORS. A SILVER AND GOLD MIX THAT COMES OUT A GREENISH HUE. COPPER AND GOLD MIX REFERED TO AS ROSE (IT CAN VARY FROM MORE RED TO PINK.) AND REGULAR YELLOW GOLD COLOR. SOMETHING REFERED TO AS WHITE GOLD IS ALSO USED IN JEWLRY. SEE PICTURE OF EXAMPLES OF BLACK HILLS GOLD IN TRI COLOR. GOOGLE BLACK HILLS GOLD FOR MORE INFO IF INTERESTED Attached Images

26th May 2011, 08:43 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,188	Yep. The camera lies. And since we got digicams and Photoshop, a lot more than it ever did previously.

30th May 2011, 12:25 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,379	Actually I think "green" gold has zinc instead of silver.............. Nice pictures though and correct on rose gold.