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Old 19th May 2011, 04:41 PM   #1
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3 beautiful barrel from Heeresgeschichtliches museum in Wienna. They all made from bronze. Length of upper barrel is about 575 mm. Calibre is about 15 mm. I don't know exactly because i have put my scale through the glass.
Michael, Do You know parameters of he upper handgonne?
p/s it looks like barrels from Bulgaria.
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Old 19th May 2011, 04:42 PM   #2
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Old 19th May 2011, 04:58 PM   #3
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Barrels from one of Bulgariains museums.
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Old 19th May 2011, 06:17 PM   #4
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3 beautiful barrel from Heeresgeschichtliches museum in Wienna. They all made from bronze. Length of upper barrel is about 575 mm. Calibre is about 15 mm. I don't know exactly because i have put my scale through the glass.
Michael, Do You know parameters of he upper handgonne?
p/s it looks like barrels from Bulgaria.

Hi Alexander,

I sadly do not have the measurements of these haquebuts in Vienna but I can tell you that all of them can be dated to the late 15th c. up to ca. 1500, and that all were Austrian, mostly Styrian productions made by barrelsmiths like Sebald Pögl, who also furnished pieces for other armories, e.g. those in Bulgaria and Czechia. That's why they look so similar.

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Default Is this a handcannon or barrel

I found this between a catch of fish in the noth sea outside de river thames
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Old 27th July 2020, 06:27 AM   #6
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Interesting! Is there a touchhole drilled into one side of the barrel, at the rear, that connects with the bore? Any markings? How is the smaller-diameter "stem" in back attached -- does it look like a separate piece screwed in or brazed on, or does this thing look like it was cast in one piece? Finally, what kind of alloy do you think the metal is -- bronze, brass, or just copper?
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Interesting! Is there a touchhole drilled into one side of the barrel, at the rear, that connects with the bore? Any markings? How is the smaller-diameter "stem" in back attached -- does it look like a separate piece screwed in or brazed on, or does this thing look like it was cast in one piece? Finally, what kind of alloy do you think the metal is -- bronze, brass, or just copper?

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Thre is a small hole at the end the last part close to the thread
Is made from bronze i thinck
As far i can see it looks made in one piece
The last part above the thread is conical made
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Interesting! Is there a touchhole drilled into one side of the barrel, at the rear, that connects with the bore? Any markings? How is the smaller-diameter "stem" in back attached -- does it look like a separate piece screwed in or brazed on, or does this thing look like it was cast in one piece? Finally, what kind of alloy do you think the metal is -- bronze, brass, or just copper?

Hoi Philip
Thre is a small hole at the end the last part close to the thread
Is made from bronze i thinck
As far i can see it looks made in one piece
The last part above the thread is conical made
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Old 27th July 2020, 07:25 PM   #9
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I found this between a catch of fish in the noth sea outside de river thames
Hi Patrick,

Interesting piece, could you send me some more HD pictures please?
What is the bore diameter? Looks like a small caliber.
The threaded haft is something i never have seen before either. Very cool piece.
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Marcus, are you determining that this is an actual cannon barrel ?
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Marcus, are you determining that this is an actual cannon barrel ?
Could be Nando, though i wouldnt rule a candlestick out either.

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Here is a picture of a 16th century candlestick. Take away the bottom and top..?
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Interesting piece, could you send me some more HD pictures please?
What is the bore diameter? Looks like a small caliber.
The threaded haft is something i never have seen before either. Very cool piece.

Hoi Marcus
The bore hole is 17 mm and on the end close to the thread ther is a small hole and inside as far i can see there are groves
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The bore hole is 17 mm and on the end close to the thread ther is a small hole and inside as far i can see there are groves
Hi Patrick,

Could you show us a picture of the possible touchhole please?
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Could you show us a picture of the possible touchhole please?
I hope you have something on the fotos
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Hoi Marcus
The bore hole is 17 mm and on the end close to the thread ther is a small hole and inside as far i can see there are groves
Thank you, Patrick, for all the info you have given us so far. Now about those grooves -- how many and when you shine a light inside, do they look straight or spiraled? Can you tell approximately how deep each groove is?

When you stick a rod down the bore, does it go all the way to the touchhole? Or might there be something inside that plugs it up before then?
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3 beautiful barrel from Heeresgeschichtliches museum in Wienna. They all made from bronze. Length of upper barrel is about 575 mm. Calibre is about 15 mm. I don't know exactly because i have put my scale through the glass.
Michael, Do You know parameters of he upper handgonne?
p/s it looks like barrels from Bulgaria.

Hi Spiridonov,

These guns have been published in Wilfried Tittmanns PhD thesis (Bochum 2015, unfortunatelly it´s only in German). Following Tittmann the guns from your post are in fact arabian/ottoman weapons, so Bulgaria wasn´t the badest idea.
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