Hand Harpoon

Gavin Nugent · 2nd May 2011, 02:21 PM

Hi Tim,

Indeed you are correct with the origins, it was collected from the region.

It is a lighter piece but very strong.

I suspect more of a harpoon than a club as the lobes are not on the right angle for any impact advantage, actually I feel they would break with a hard club like strike, you'd be better off with a simple lobe, much stronger and more effective...however, the flared tip near the barbs fits solid and comfortable in the palm of your hand for a good tight grip, with the other hand as a guide this is a super effective stabber....

Gav

fearn · 2nd May 2011, 05:05 PM

Hi Gav,

There are a couple of possibilities here. One is that it originally had two spear heads, but that the one in front of the barbs broke and was rounded off.

The other possibility is that it's a spear on one end and a carrying hook (or similar) on the other. I've seen one of those from Hawaii.

F

Tim Simmons · 2nd May 2011, 06:44 PM

Some pictures to illustrate the typical pointed terminal. The club with the inlay is listed as a dance club in "shields of Melanesia" the two on the black background are from the publication mentioned earlier in this topic. The one on the white background is also from "shields of melannesia" These and similar clubs are most often called parrying or shield clubs but are also used in dance as seen in the link. Perhaps this too is a form of dance staff ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjD9k...eature=related

VANDOO · 5th May 2011, 06:06 PM

HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF A SIMULAR ITEM, SAID TO HAVE BEEN COLLECTED BY FRANZ WERNER IN 1959 IN THE RENNEL ISLANDS, SOLOMONS. IT IS 35INCHES LONG. A INTERESTING FORM BUT LIKELY MORE OF A STATUS OR CEREMONIAL ITEM AS THERE ARE A LOT BETTER CLUBS FOR FIGHTING.

Gavin Nugent · 5th May 2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF A SIMULAR ITEM, SAID TO HAVE BEEN COLLECTED BY FRANZ WERNER IN 1959 IN THE RENNEL ISLANDS, SOLOMONS. IT IS 35INCHES LONG. A INTERESTING FORM BUT LIKELY MORE OF A STATUS OR CEREMONIAL ITEM AS THERE ARE A LOT BETTER CLUBS FOR FIGHTING.

Spot on Barry, the 'club' I presented was also gathered mid 20th century from the Rennel Island group by a cadet (naval I am guessing).
Looking at this one, status may well be what they are as in the hand, fighting isn't a key factor and by the form of this one, it would be hard to draw paralells with a harpoon that I considered mine as....Cheers!

Gav

2nd May 2011, 02:21 PM	#1
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Indeed you are correct Hi Tim, Indeed you are correct with the origins, it was collected from the region. It is a lighter piece but very strong. I suspect more of a harpoon than a club as the lobes are not on the right angle for any impact advantage, actually I feel they would break with a hard club like strike, you'd be better off with a simple lobe, much stronger and more effective...however, the flared tip near the barbs fits solid and comfortable in the palm of your hand for a good tight grip, with the other hand as a guide this is a super effective stabber.... Gav

2nd May 2011, 06:44 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Some pictures to illustrate the typical pointed terminal. The club with the inlay is listed as a dance club in "shields of Melanesia" the two on the black background are from the publication mentioned earlier in this topic. The one on the white background is also from "shields of melannesia" These and similar clubs are most often called parrying or shield clubs but are also used in dance as seen in the link. Perhaps this too is a form of dance staff ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjD9k...eature=related Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 2nd May 2011 at 07:03 PM.

5th May 2011, 06:06 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF A SIMULAR ITEM, SAID TO HAVE BEEN COLLECTED BY FRANZ WERNER IN 1959 IN THE RENNEL ISLANDS, SOLOMONS. IT IS 35INCHES LONG. A INTERESTING FORM BUT LIKELY MORE OF A STATUS OR CEREMONIAL ITEM AS THERE ARE A LOT BETTER CLUBS FOR FIGHTING. Attached Images

2nd May 2011, 05:05 PM	#2
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Gav, There are a couple of possibilities here. One is that it originally had two spear heads, but that the one in front of the barbs broke and was rounded off. The other possibility is that it's a spear on one end and a carrying hook (or similar) on the other. I've seen one of those from Hawaii. F