Persian Jambiya

Aurangzeb · 11th July 2005, 12:32 AM

Hi all!

I have tested it's ability to pierce cardboard, it is definatly not funtional the only part to pierce was the bulb tip the other two tips blunted the stab into the evil box! But the steel quality is above the tourist pieces in my collection, so I think it is ceremonial and not a tourist sale piece. I have enclosed some close-ups of the art word on it and is not simple but is worn and well decorated. So this is late 19th. century... Seems like a very good appraisal of age. I do have an odd liking to tourist pieces, don't ask why I don't really know!

This is definately one of my favorite daggers either way. To me the decoration on it looks similer to a piece that was on "Oriental Arms.com"

Aurangzeb · 11th July 2005, 02:35 PM

Hi all!

I forgot to say that I read somewhere that these are symbolic of the sword Zulfiqar, I don't know how true this is though.

Mark...

Rivkin · 11th July 2005, 03:39 PM

as I said before, this dagger was already discussed here:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=qajar

I don't know if it has anything to do with Zulfakar, but Zulfakar is traditionally a two bladed sword (not three).

Rick · 11th July 2005, 06:25 PM

Aurangzeb,
To see the configuration of a Zulfiqar styled sword .
http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001968.html

Aurangzeb · 11th July 2005, 09:38 PM

Hi all!

What is the "grand tour"? Is my dagger Persian or modern Iranian or indian I am confused. Whould the symbols on the handle and sheath of mine help in I.D. of origen? The symbol on the Shaeth and handle look like farsi or arabic to me.

Rick · 11th July 2005, 10:02 PM

The Grand Tour is a reference to a time when wealthy Americans and Europeans traveled around the world on vacation . This was usually done between the late 19thC and the mid 20thC colonial period in Western history .

During the late 19thC there was a great interest in 'Orientalism' in both countries .

Your dagger could have come from or been mfr'd in any number of Islamic countries .
The theme IMO is mainly Persian (Iran) though .

/ now , about that copy of Stone's < nag , nag>

Aurangzeb · 11th July 2005, 10:08 PM

Hi Rick!

Nope, I have notgot a copy of stones yet pay day is Thursday. So should I count this as the first piece in my Persian collection?

Mark...

11th July 2005, 12:32 AM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi all! I have tested it's ability to pierce cardboard, it is definatly not funtional the only part to pierce was the bulb tip the other two tips blunted the stab into the evil box! But the steel quality is above the tourist pieces in my collection, so I think it is ceremonial and not a tourist sale piece. I have enclosed some close-ups of the art word on it and is not simple but is worn and well decorated. So this is late 19th. century... Seems like a very good appraisal of age. I do have an odd liking to tourist pieces, don't ask why I don't really know! This is definately one of my favorite daggers either way. To me the decoration on it looks similer to a piece that was on "Oriental Arms.com" Attached Images Last edited by Aurangzeb; 11th July 2005 at 12:35 AM. Reason: Duplicate posted picture

11th July 2005, 06:25 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Follow this link Aurangzeb, To see the configuration of a Zulfiqar styled sword . http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001968.html

11th July 2005, 02:35 PM	#2
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi all! I forgot to say that I read somewhere that these are symbolic of the sword Zulfiqar, I don't know how true this is though. Mark...

11th July 2005, 03:39 PM	#3
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	as I said before, this dagger was already discussed here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=qajar I don't know if it has anything to do with Zulfakar, but Zulfakar is traditionally a two bladed sword (not three).

11th July 2005, 09:38 PM	#5
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi all! What is the "grand tour"? Is my dagger Persian or modern Iranian or indian I am confused. Whould the symbols on the handle and sheath of mine help in I.D. of origen? The symbol on the Shaeth and handle look like farsi or arabic to me.

11th July 2005, 10:02 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	The Grand Tour is a reference to a time when wealthy Americans and Europeans traveled around the world on vacation . This was usually done between the late 19thC and the mid 20thC colonial period in Western history . During the late 19thC there was a great interest in 'Orientalism' in both countries . Your dagger could have come from or been mfr'd in any number of Islamic countries . The theme IMO is mainly Persian (Iran) though . / now , about that copy of Stone's < nag , nag>

11th July 2005, 10:08 PM	#7
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi Rick! Nope, I have notgot a copy of stones yet pay day is Thursday. So should I count this as the first piece in my Persian collection? Mark...