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Old 1st February 2011, 09:43 AM   #1
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TBH, I just didn't want to be the bearer of ill tidings again.
This type of gun show up fairly regularly across the UK. Supposedly from various sources, but mostly retailed by a rather 'well known' trader in the UK.
Some of them have been 'rebuilt' from separate parts, many have at the very least been 'restored' prior to coming to the UK. Including the addition of newly made replacement parts.
Yours has a newly made replacement trigger guard and some screws at least.
However, having examined a fair few of these guns, I am of the opinion that some of the main parts are in fact of relatively recent or indeed very recent manufacture.
Which perhaps should not suprise, as they are probobly still used in some places.
As Martin says, they are of 'native' manufacture.

Here is a picture of one selection of examples in a catalogue from 2001.

They were sold in grades ranging from completely 'restored', down to basically complete but needing some light work.
Yours was probobly sold missing a couple of screws and the new owner just put them in.
To be honest, the ones like you have are the better buy if you can finish them yourself.
The completely restored ones tended to be overly 'cooked' IMHO.

The same trader also sold 'sporting guns' from I think Nepal for a few years. There was also the huge pile of similar weapons from the 'Royal armoury of Nepal'. There are some pictures of piles of them floating about, I'll see if I can find you one.
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Old 1st February 2011, 12:36 PM   #2
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Here's a picture.
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Old 1st February 2011, 03:20 PM   #3
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Gene and Martin, thank you so much guys!
While we all probably feel the same, and dont want to present less than heartening news on someones acquisition, it is better to have the straight story. It is all a learning process, and I appreciate you guys stepping up to share your experience.
All the best,
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Old 2nd February 2011, 01:11 AM   #4
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I did see this post earlier but though I would wait and see what other comments surfaced. I have to agree with both Gene and Martin. The obvious discrepancies are the shape of the forewood, the barrel band with the ring on it, the hammer with incorrect "throw" and the strange looking ram rod. Without being unkind, I would keep it as parts, or maybe a curiosity of backyard manufacture.
I was once told by an old collector friend of mine that if an item does not look right, then it probably isn't. A good maxim for all collectors IMHO.
By the way Gene, how much for the firewood in the pic??
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Old 2nd February 2011, 12:53 PM   #5
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Cheers lads! I did get the feeling this was an oddball gun, but have never come across this whole business of remaking weapons from old bits outside the Khyber Pass.

Honestly, I'm quite interested just to find out more about the old bugger. It's not as if I paid anything for it; from my point of view, I've nothing to lose and everything to play for, as well as having had a valuable learning experience. Obviously we'd all like to have the unusual and interesting bits, or at least a good, workmanlike example of the genuine article, but it can't always be so. As it stands, this little gun is an interesting curiosity that'll be good to hang up or prop in the corner. One's inclined to speculate on how it'd do as a shotgun actually... hmm.

Of course, there is one small problem. While I was drying the stock out a little (by standing it up in the front room), someone managed to knock the gun over. As a result, the stock has now split almost in two. Given that it's an odd "backyard" sort of piece, I'm inclined to put it at the bottom of my repair/acquire list, but still. At some stage a lot of stock repair will be needed on this one. Of all the bloody luck, eh?
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Old 3rd February 2011, 03:39 AM   #6
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RDGAC,

If someones going to knock one of your guns over and bust the stock, it is as well to be this one!

Since I first saw this little gun, I've been wracking mi brains about it.
Someone some years ago used to sell these, sort of old, but refurbished with new bits.

I think they were sold by someone advertising in the "Guns Review" in the 70's.
I don't think it was Major Noel Corry, from Steeple-Bumpstead, but it Might have been. I know he had all kinds of eastern barrels and such.
We bought the odd one from him!
I do remember they were cheap at the time, something like ten quid for a single, and about 15 for a double. The parts didn't look like they were a very happy marriage, so we never did buy one.
This is like seriously using my memory!.......been out the country since '84.

Best of everything,
Richard.
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Old 3rd February 2011, 10:02 AM   #7
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Hiya Richard,

Thanks for that little titbit; it puts me a mite closer to working out where this old thing came from. I've just e-mailed the lady from whom I obtained it with a view to finding out more about its history, if anything is available; fingers crossed, eh?

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