Strange Dagger in 16th Century Dutch Painting

laEspadaAncha · 2nd January 2011, 06:14 PM

Good Morning Michael & a Very Happy New Year!

Wonderful reference, and I thank you for posting it. The deeply curved belly of the 3rd example in the 1st panel (counting left-to-right, top-to-bottom) does indeed resemble our "mystery dagger" in blade profile.

Considering the fanciful appearance of the cut out work along the blade spine in this illustrated example, I can't help but think that if it existed, then Bosch's dagger likely existed as well (especially in light of the other reasons discussed in the thread). Given the details which seem to indicate he painted the same dagger in two of his works, I have to wonder if he had some personal connection to this particular dagger...

Do you by chance have larger scanned copies / images of these pages available? If so, I can PM you my email address, as I would like to have them on hand for reference. I find the turned wooden grips to be interesting, as well as the exposed tang on a couple examples (that appear to be twisted?).

Regards,

Chris

mrwizard · 2nd January 2011, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

Do you by chance have larger scanned copies / images of these pages available?

http://www.kb.dk/da/nb/materialer/ha...ott-2_290.html

Best Regards,
Thilo

laEspadaAncha · 2nd January 2011, 06:56 PM

"Ask and ye shall receive," eh?

Thank you Thilo...

Matchlock · 2nd January 2011, 07:17 PM

Exactly, and we have received ...

Thanks, Thilo, you were faster than I was.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 2nd January 2011, 09:03 PM

http://www.kb.dk/da/nb/materialer/ha...ott-2_290.html

OK, for all those who do not indulge in a long search, here are the relevant scans in optimum postable size.

Best,
Michael

2nd January 2011, 09:03 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	http://www.kb.dk/da/nb/materialer/ha...ott-2_290.html OK, for all those who do not indulge in a long search, here are the relevant scans in optimum postable size. Best, Michael Attached Images

2nd January 2011, 06:14 PM	#1
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Good Morning Michael & a Very Happy New Year! Wonderful reference, and I thank you for posting it. The deeply curved belly of the 3rd example in the 1st panel (counting left-to-right, top-to-bottom) does indeed resemble our "mystery dagger" in blade profile. Considering the fanciful appearance of the cut out work along the blade spine in this illustrated example, I can't help but think that if it existed, then Bosch's dagger likely existed as well (especially in light of the other reasons discussed in the thread). Given the details which seem to indicate he painted the same dagger in two of his works, I have to wonder if he had some personal connection to this particular dagger... Do you by chance have larger scanned copies / images of these pages available? If so, I can PM you my email address, as I would like to have them on hand for reference. I find the turned wooden grips to be interesting, as well as the exposed tang on a couple examples (that appear to be twisted?). Regards, Chris

2nd January 2011, 06:56 PM	#3
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	"Ask and ye shall receive," eh? Thank you Thilo...

2nd January 2011, 07:17 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Exactly, and we have received ... Thanks, Thilo, you were faster than I was. Best, Michael