Any Amazon collectors?

Tim Simmons · 15th December 2010, 07:20 PM

No worries here I was not expecting anying older than the last part of the 20th century. I like the big pommel, a close contact bludgeon.

VANDOO · 21st December 2010, 04:12 AM

MY SOURCE DRIED UP QUITE A WHILE BACK AND WAS NOT VERY PRODUCTIVE ANYWAY BUT I HAVE DABBLED A BIT IN SOUTH AMERICAN CLUBS. I WILL PUT IN A FEW PICTURES WITH WHAT INFORMATION I HAVE.
1. KAYAPO TRIBE, BRAZIL, DANCE
2.REPLICA OF AZTEC MACUAHUITL WAR CLUB WITH OBSIDIAN BLADES.
3. BORA TRIBE, PERU, RIO AMPIYACU PEBAS
4. FOUR VARIOUS AMAZON WAR CLUBS
5.KARAJA TRIBE BRAZIL, 20.5IN. LONG CLUB
6.HUAORA TRIBE HUNTER WITH CLUB, AND BLOWGUN
7.MACARA CLUB,GUIANA N. BRAZIL CLUB 25.5 X 4IN.
8. SHIPIBO KOMBO TRIBE,PERU, FULL SIZE CLUB
9. SHIPIBO KOMBO, PERU, TOURIST MODEL 21 IN LONG.
10. SHIPIBO KOMBO TRIBE,UOAYALI RIVER AREA PERU
11.YANOMANI TRIBE CLUBS
12. AZTEC REPLICA MACUAHUITL WAR CLUB

VANDOO · 21st December 2010, 05:11 AM

A FEW MORE AND I WILL QUIT.
1. AZTEC REPLICA OBSIDIAN BLADES
2.KARAJA TRIBE WAR CLUB
3. & 4. KAYAPO WAR CLUBS
5. LEATHER PERDIDA, EARLY FORM OF BOLO'S
6. MACANA CLUB, 11 X 2.75 IN LONG, GUIANA ,N. BRAZIL

Tim Simmons · 21st December 2010, 09:55 AM

Thanks for the pictures Barry. I was going to buy one of those clubs no the black background, but by the time I made my mind up, somebody else snapped it up. I was frying a Niue fish, so you win some you loose some. JusT this picture 1908 is most interesting. As specially the Brummagen/Brummagem ie Burmingham England goods. From "The Hidden Peoples of the Amazon museum of mankind, Elizabeth Carmichael 1985" at this date it is said that large tribe against tribe conflict had more or less stopped but smaller inter-tribal conflicts still happened.

fearn · 21st December 2010, 05:11 PM

Hi Vandoo,

Loved the pictures, but I'm not sure that the "Bolo perdido" is an early version of the bolo. I remember reading that it was a later version, and the multi-ball versions were the oldest. Either way, it's a cool weapon from the Pampas.

Best,

F

Nathaniel · 23rd December 2010, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VANDOO

A FEW MORE AND I WILL QUIT.
1. AZTEC REPLICA OBSIDIAN BLADES
2.KARAJA TRIBE WAR CLUB
3. & 4. KAYAPO WAR CLUBS
5. LEATHER PERDIDA, EARLY FORM OF BOLO'S
6. MACANA CLUB, 11 X 2.75 IN LONG, GUIANA ,N. BRAZIL

Obsidian lined clubs would definitely make a garly cut...some might groan when I mention the show...but the Spike TV program Deadliest Warrior featured a Aztec Jaguar warrior:

http://deadliestwarrior.wikia.com/wiki/Aztec_Jaguar

fearn · 23rd December 2010, 01:36 AM

GROAN

Nathaniel · 23rd December 2010, 01:52 AM

None the less it was kind of interesting seeing the program how a heavy cotton vest worked as an effective light armour

fearn · 23rd December 2010, 03:46 AM

Personally, I think the Koreans did it better. But that is off topic. Getting back on topic, why hasn't anyone talked about Francisco de Orellana yet?

Best,

F

15th December 2010, 07:20 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	No worries here I was not expecting anying older than the last part of the 20th century. I like the big pommel, a close contact bludgeon. Attached Images

21st December 2010, 04:12 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MY SOURCE DRIED UP QUITE A WHILE BACK AND WAS NOT VERY PRODUCTIVE ANYWAY BUT I HAVE DABBLED A BIT IN SOUTH AMERICAN CLUBS. I WILL PUT IN A FEW PICTURES WITH WHAT INFORMATION I HAVE. 1. KAYAPO TRIBE, BRAZIL, DANCE 2.REPLICA OF AZTEC MACUAHUITL WAR CLUB WITH OBSIDIAN BLADES. 3. BORA TRIBE, PERU, RIO AMPIYACU PEBAS 4. FOUR VARIOUS AMAZON WAR CLUBS 5.KARAJA TRIBE BRAZIL, 20.5IN. LONG CLUB 6.HUAORA TRIBE HUNTER WITH CLUB, AND BLOWGUN 7.MACARA CLUB,GUIANA N. BRAZIL CLUB 25.5 X 4IN. 8. SHIPIBO KOMBO TRIBE,PERU, FULL SIZE CLUB 9. SHIPIBO KOMBO, PERU, TOURIST MODEL 21 IN LONG. 10. SHIPIBO KOMBO TRIBE,UOAYALI RIVER AREA PERU 11.YANOMANI TRIBE CLUBS 12. AZTEC REPLICA MACUAHUITL WAR CLUB Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 21st December 2010 at 04:35 AM.

21st December 2010, 05:11 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE AND I WILL QUIT. 1. AZTEC REPLICA OBSIDIAN BLADES 2.KARAJA TRIBE WAR CLUB 3. & 4. KAYAPO WAR CLUBS 5. LEATHER PERDIDA, EARLY FORM OF BOLO'S 6. MACANA CLUB, 11 X 2.75 IN LONG, GUIANA ,N. BRAZIL Attached Images

21st December 2010, 09:55 AM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	Thanks for the pictures Barry. I was going to buy one of those clubs no the black background, but by the time I made my mind up, somebody else snapped it up. I was frying a Niue fish, so you win some you loose some. JusT this picture 1908 is most interesting. As specially the Brummagen/Brummagem ie Burmingham England goods. From "The Hidden Peoples of the Amazon museum of mankind, Elizabeth Carmichael 1985" at this date it is said that large tribe against tribe conflict had more or less stopped but smaller inter-tribal conflicts still happened. Attached Images

21st December 2010, 05:11 PM	#5
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Vandoo, Loved the pictures, but I'm not sure that the "Bolo perdido" is an early version of the bolo. I remember reading that it was a later version, and the multi-ball versions were the oldest. Either way, it's a cool weapon from the Pampas. Best, F

23rd December 2010, 01:36 AM	#7
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	GROAN

23rd December 2010, 01:52 AM	#8
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	None the less it was kind of interesting seeing the program how a heavy cotton vest worked as an effective light armour

23rd December 2010, 03:46 AM	#9
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Personally, I think the Koreans did it better. But that is off topic. Getting back on topic, why hasn't anyone talked about Francisco de Orellana yet? Best, F