old style barung! Borneo?

Maurice · 5th December 2010, 07:14 PM

I think such barung as this one (in my last post) hasn't been discussed in the forum yet (as far as I can see with the search function).....and not one comment at all after 4 days????

Battara · 5th December 2010, 07:43 PM

On rare occasion I have seen a piece like this and I also think this is from Borneo.

migueldiaz · 5th December 2010, 10:20 PM

Thanks again, Maurice. If ever the Leiden trip pushes through, I'll write to the curator beforehand to ask for permission (hopefully, he/she will grant it).

On a related matter, I think there's a team from the Philippines' national museum who go that Leiden museum from time to time to catalogue the Phil. items (and have in fact published at least one book already). It's cool that your country has preserved those Philippine pieces for study by generations to come

Maurice · 6th December 2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

On rare occasion I have seen a piece like this and I also think this is from Borneo.

Thank you Jose,
Maybe somebody has one in his collection which he would like to share in this thread? I would like see more of these...

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Originally Posted by Migueldiaz

If ever the Leiden trip pushes through, I'll write to the curator beforehand to ask for permission (hopefully, he/she will grant it).

Let me know when it is going to happen. It would be great to meet you guys in the Leiden depot.....

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Originally Posted by Sajen

This barung is indeed a great piece like nearly all pieces in this collection.

Now I understand why you want to have a similar barung. ).

Absolutely true! I was looking for a good old style barung for quite a while. I wanted one to stay in my collection. Now I only need a shield, and I would be satisfied.... (well......almost satisfied).....

migueldiaz · 7th December 2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

Let me know when it is going to happen. It would be great to meet you guys in the Leiden depot.....

Thanks and looking forward to that! Also, we will tell the curator that we will be traveling half way around the globe just to see what's in the depot ... maybe that 'drama' will work

kino · 1st January 2011, 11:09 PM

Found this Barung on eBay last month. Dimensions are probably close to the ex-members Barung. My blade is not as nice and I don't have a scabbard.
The dimensions are: blade length 10.75 in., widest part of blade 3.25 in., length of handle 7.75 in.

Maurice, what are the dimensions of your and the ex-members Barungs?

laEspadaAncha · 2nd January 2011, 02:30 AM

Hi Maurice,

I'm a little late to the game here, but the shape/proportions of your barong remind me of one I acquired in August that was one of four Moro blades acquired by a U.S. officer following action on Mindanao in 1900. It too had a horn sleeve/ferule, though I can't really compare its length as it is obscured by the chord wrapping:

Maurice · 2nd January 2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

Hi Maurice,

I'm a little late to the game here, but the shape/proportions of your barong remind me of one I acquired in August that was one of four Moro blades acquired by a U.S. officer following action on Mindanao in 1900. It too had a horn sleeve/ferule, though I can't really compare its length as it is obscured by the chord wrapping:

Thanks for posting yours as comparison. It could be yakan? But I'm not that experienced in barungs to be sure about it and maybe others can tell you more about it. However the cacatua pommel is not clearly yakan style to me..??
Can you see somewhere a sign where a possibly "thickening" in the chord wrapping stops, to nose out the length of the horn sleeve?

Maurice

Maurice · 2nd January 2011, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kino

Found this Barung on eBay last month. Dimensions are probably close to the ex-members Barung. My blade is not as nice and I don't have a scabbard.
The dimensions are: blade length 10.75 in., widest part of blade 3.25 in., length of handle 7.75 in.

Maurice, what are the dimensions of your and the ex-members Barungs?

Kino that is also a beauty!
I like the condition of the horn punto. Is there somewhere a crack in it?

The dimensions of mine are (barung I mean ofcourse

): overall length 23,20 inches, blade length 13,75 inches, widest part of the blade 2,95 inches, thickness of the blade near the handle 8mm.

I don't know the measurements of Ben's barung, but the one he has and the one you have are more the same in shape I guess when looking at the images...they look more compact as mine.

Maurice

kino · 3rd January 2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

I like the condition of the horn punto. Is there somewhere a crack in it?

Maurice

Forutunately the horn punto has no crack. i've taken some preventative measures by applying Vitamin E to it.
Just for fun, here is a photo of another sword that was attributed to Borneo from awhile back. What a size difference.

1st January 2011, 11:09 PM	#6
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	Found this Barung on eBay last month. Dimensions are probably close to the ex-members Barung. My blade is not as nice and I don't have a scabbard. The dimensions are: blade length 10.75 in., widest part of blade 3.25 in., length of handle 7.75 in. Maurice, what are the dimensions of your and the ex-members Barungs? Attached Images

5th December 2010, 07:14 PM	#1
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	I think such barung as this one (in my last post) hasn't been discussed in the forum yet (as far as I can see with the search function).....and not one comment at all after 4 days????

5th December 2010, 07:43 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	On rare occasion I have seen a piece like this and I also think this is from Borneo.

5th December 2010, 10:20 PM	#3
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Thanks again, Maurice. If ever the Leiden trip pushes through, I'll write to the curator beforehand to ask for permission (hopefully, he/she will grant it). On a related matter, I think there's a team from the Philippines' national museum who go that Leiden museum from time to time to catalogue the Phil. items (and have in fact published at least one book already). It's cool that your country has preserved those Philippine pieces for study by generations to come

2nd January 2011, 02:30 AM	#7
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Hi Maurice, I'm a little late to the game here, but the shape/proportions of your barong remind me of one I acquired in August that was one of four Moro blades acquired by a U.S. officer following action on Mindanao in 1900. It too had a horn sleeve/ferule, though I can't really compare its length as it is obscured by the chord wrapping: