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14th November 2010, 08:10 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking
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Hi, Thilo,
You definitely were on the right track. Flügellanzeneisen, according to Rudolf Wegeli, Inventar der Waffensammlung des Bernischen Historischen Museum in Bern, vol. III, Stangenwaffen (hafted arms), 1939, were the older and basic forms, 8th to 9th century. Straps were not present yet. What Cesare illustrated were their followers, called Knebelspieße, Swiss and Italian, 14th to 16th centuries, with haft straps. Best, Michael |
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14th November 2010, 08:42 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dortmund, Germany
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Hi Michael,
Wow, the Knebelspiess labeled 1855 looks almost exactly like Cesares pieces.  Only difference is that the straps are located on the broad side. Maybe that gives a hint on where and when they are produced? Putting the straps on the broad side makes the lance more robust agains winding forces after the target has been hit. The way Cesares lances were mounted would make them more robust for slashing attacks. Best Regards, Thilo |
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14th November 2010, 09:53 PM
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Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking
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Duly noted, Thilo !
 Best, Michael |
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