Kris/Sundang just finished on ebay.

Sajen · 13th November 2010, 01:44 PM

Hello Pukka,

have bought some time ago a kris from Mindanao/Philippines by the same seller. Look here:http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12825
He told me that it is from his passed away father's collection.
Agree with you that gangya (fret) area is very nice elaborate. Seems to be a fighting piece with good age and prevalently used. Others with more knowledge will tell you more.

Regards,

Detlef

Pukka Bundook · 13th November 2010, 02:03 PM

Sajen,

Thank you so much for the reply and link! The comments on the link help such a lot in my undestanding of these pieces.

Thank you again.
Richard.

Sajen · 13th November 2010, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

Sajen,

Thank you so much for the reply and link! The comments on the link help such a lot in my undestanding of these pieces.

Thank you again.
Richard.

Pukka, you are welcome!

VANDOO · 13th November 2010, 04:36 PM

I BID ON THIS ITEM BUT IT DIDN'T GO HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE SELLERS POOR PICTURE. I WOULD HAVE BID HIGHER IF I HAD BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE FILEWORK AND HANDLE. THIS IS A GOOD OLD UNTOUCHED MORO FIGHTING KRIS SWORD IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A PATTERENED BLADE BUT THE WORKMANSHIP IS GOOD AND I SUSPECT IT IS A FOLDED HAND FORGED BLADE WITH VERY SHARP EDGES EVEN AFTER ALL THESE YEARS. IT MAY BE FROM MINDANO ISLAND PHILLIPPINES OR BORNEO, BRUNI OR EVEN MALAYSIA THE MORO WERE PRESENT OR TRAVELED IN ALL AREAS.
THE FILEWORK IS DIFFERENT FROM ANY I HAVE SEEN AND VERY WELL DONE LOOKS A LOT LIKE MALAY WORK SOMEONE GOT A GOOD BUY ON THIS ONE WISH IT HAD BEEN ME.

Battara · 13th November 2010, 06:09 PM

You are all right in that it is Moro. It is indeed from Mindanao, in fact it is Maranao in origin.

Pukka Bundook · 14th November 2010, 02:32 PM

Thank you for your replies, Vandoo and Battara.

I felt rather sick, not bidding, as it seemed "right" to me, and I have not seen nicer file-work, but as I am unschooled in these weapons, thought I'd better hold off!

Would the hilt have been better dressed at some time?
The rather plain hilt was what piqued my interest actually,.....Not at all 'touristy'!
Thank you again.
Now I can go away and feel narked with myself for not bidding!

Sajen · 14th November 2010, 04:07 PM

It is my guess that it isn't the original hilt and maybe a later replacement.

It will come the next chance to get a nice Moro kris for a good price.

I know from what I speak!

kai · 15th November 2010, 01:14 AM

Hello Richard,

Quote:

and I have not seen nicer file-work, but as I am unschooled in these weapons, thought I'd better hold off!

Actually, this style of "greneng" is not traditional - if you're looking for a typical 19th c. Moro kris, it was good to pass up on this piece IMHO.

While the quality of the file work does look good and the special style is certainly of interest, I'd guess that this is a 20th c. blade. The separation line does look a bit weird to me and I'm far from convinced that this blade really has a seperate gangya rather than an engraved line...

Hilt does look like a makeshift repair, indeed.

Regards,
Kai

14th November 2010, 02:32 PM	#6
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Thank you for your replies, Vandoo and Battara. I felt rather sick, not bidding, as it seemed "right" to me, and I have not seen nicer file-work, but as I am unschooled in these weapons, thought I'd better hold off! Would the hilt have been better dressed at some time? The rather plain hilt was what piqued my interest actually,.....Not at all 'touristy'! Thank you again. Now I can go away and feel narked with myself for not bidding! Last edited by Pukka Bundook; 14th November 2010 at 03:03 PM. Reason: To add a few lines.

13th November 2010, 01:44 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	Hello Pukka, have bought some time ago a kris from Mindanao/Philippines by the same seller. Look here:http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12825 He told me that it is from his passed away father's collection. Agree with you that gangya (fret) area is very nice elaborate. Seems to be a fighting piece with good age and prevalently used. Others with more knowledge will tell you more. Regards, Detlef

13th November 2010, 02:03 PM	#2
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Sajen, Thank you so much for the reply and link! The comments on the link help such a lot in my undestanding of these pieces. Thank you again. Richard.

13th November 2010, 04:36 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I BID ON THIS ITEM BUT IT DIDN'T GO HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE SELLERS POOR PICTURE. I WOULD HAVE BID HIGHER IF I HAD BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE FILEWORK AND HANDLE. THIS IS A GOOD OLD UNTOUCHED MORO FIGHTING KRIS SWORD IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A PATTERENED BLADE BUT THE WORKMANSHIP IS GOOD AND I SUSPECT IT IS A FOLDED HAND FORGED BLADE WITH VERY SHARP EDGES EVEN AFTER ALL THESE YEARS. IT MAY BE FROM MINDANO ISLAND PHILLIPPINES OR BORNEO, BRUNI OR EVEN MALAYSIA THE MORO WERE PRESENT OR TRAVELED IN ALL AREAS. THE FILEWORK IS DIFFERENT FROM ANY I HAVE SEEN AND VERY WELL DONE LOOKS A LOT LIKE MALAY WORK SOMEONE GOT A GOOD BUY ON THIS ONE WISH IT HAD BEEN ME.

13th November 2010, 06:09 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	You are all right in that it is Moro. It is indeed from Mindanao, in fact it is Maranao in origin.

14th November 2010, 04:07 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	It is my guess that it isn't the original hilt and maybe a later replacement. It will come the next chance to get a nice Moro kris for a good price. I know from what I speak!