Katzbalgers and Related Landsknecht Swords

Matchlock · 11th November 2010, 08:30 PM

Two fine hand-and-a-half Landsknecht swords, ~1520; painting of the Passion of Christ, by Rueland Frueauf The Younger, Passau, Lower Bavaria.

Matchlock · 17th November 2010, 08:12 AM

A good South German Korbdegen, ca. 1550, preserved at Schloss Braunfels, Northern Germany.

Photos taken in 2004, copyright by the author.

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Matchlock · 17th November 2010, 08:21 AM

A very fine and rare South German Estoc (Panzerstecher), ca. 1500, the blade struck with an orb and cross mark, preserved at Schloss Braunfels, Northern Germany.

Photos 2004, copyright by the author.

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Matchlock · 19th December 2010, 06:20 PM

From only recently recovered colored leaves.

Mostly from flickr.com, with thanks to the original posters there.

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cornelistromp · 3rd January 2011, 06:05 PM

from the new publication of Jan Piet Puype & Harm Stevens
Arms And Armour of knights and landsknechts in the netherlands Army Museum.

cornelistromp · 3rd January 2011, 06:07 PM

some more.

Matchlock · 3rd January 2011, 06:31 PM

Great, Cornelis,

Thank you so much!

I just ordered my copy of that publication.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 30th March 2011, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornelistromp

from the new publication of Jan Piet Puype & Harm Stevens
Arms And Armour of knights and landsknechts in the netherlands Army Museum.

Hi Jasper,

I hope you don't mind my re-attaching better quality scans of these unusually fine items, together with the informative texts.

The first Katzbalger dates of ca. 1515-20, next there is a sample of ca. 1540 but please note that the blade is from a rapier of ca. 1590-1600.
The excavated find is a rare Katzbalger saber (I don't really think it should be called cutlass) of ca. 1535.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 30th March 2011, 04:50 PM

These two Landsknecht daggers in the Legermuseum range among the finest I have ever seen.

For the first I would suggest a date of almost exactly 1500, the other might be a decade or so younger.

Best,
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Matchlock · 23rd July 2011, 06:10 PM

Sold Thomas Del Mar, in association with Sotheby's, Dec 8, 2010, incorrectly dated 'late 16th c.' in the description.

Best,
Michael

Samik · 5th January 2011, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

A very fine and rare South German Estoc (Panzerstecher), ca. 1500, the blade struck with an orb and cross mark, preserved at Schloss Braunfels, Northern Germany.

Thanks Michael for posting this beauty!

A bit of a silly question but would you happen to know if the piece was for use on foot (as in armored fighting) or for equestrian combat? Our hussar did carry similar pieces a decade or so later but with a shorter grip ( I do think the hilt on the stecher you posted is at least "hand-and-a-half" .. assuming my eyes are not decieving me

)

Cheers,
Samuel

Matchlock · 5th January 2011, 03:21 PM

Hi Samuel,

Exactly, this is a hand-and-a-half estoc and too long for foot combat. Estocs usually were equestrians weapons to thrust from horseback against foot soldiers.

Cheers, and best,
Michael

Matchlock · 27th March 2011, 01:15 PM

Ca. 1515, preserved in perfect patina all over.

Author's color photos.

Matchlock · 30th March 2011, 04:32 PM

A knight with his Katzbalger, ca. 1510.

11th November 2010, 08:30 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Two fine hand-and-a-half Landsknecht swords, ~1520; painting of the Passion of Christ, by Rueland Frueauf The Younger, Passau, Lower Bavaria. Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 12th November 2010 at 12:32 AM.

17th November 2010, 08:12 AM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A good South German Korbdegen, ca. 1550, preserved at Schloss Braunfels, Northern Germany. Photos taken in 2004, copyright by the author. m Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 17th November 2010 at 08:28 AM.

17th November 2010, 08:21 AM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A very fine and rare South German Estoc (Panzerstecher), ca. 1500, the blade struck with an orb and cross mark, preserved at Schloss Braunfels, Northern Germany. Photos 2004, copyright by the author. m Attached Images

19th December 2010, 06:20 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Important 1530's Nürnberg Woodcut Sources - in Color! From only recently recovered colored leaves. Mostly from flickr.com, with thanks to the original posters there. m Attached Images

3rd January 2011, 06:05 PM	#5
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	from the new publication of Jan Piet Puype & Harm Stevens Arms And Armour of knights and landsknechts in the netherlands Army Museum. Attached Images

3rd January 2011, 06:07 PM	#6
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	some more. Attached Images

3rd January 2011, 06:31 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Great, Cornelis, Thank you so much! I just ordered my copy of that publication. Best, Michael

30th March 2011, 04:50 PM	#9
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	These two Landsknecht daggers in the Legermuseum range among the finest I have ever seen. For the first I would suggest a date of almost exactly 1500, the other might be a decade or so younger. Best, m Attached Images

23rd July 2011, 06:10 PM	#10
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A Fine Landsknecht German or Swiss Two Hand Sword, ca. 1540 Sold Thomas Del Mar, in association with Sotheby's, Dec 8, 2010, incorrectly dated 'late 16th c.' in the description. Best, Michael Attached Images

5th January 2011, 03:21 PM	#12
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Samuel, Exactly, this is a hand-and-a-half estoc and too long for foot combat. Estocs usually were equestrians weapons to thrust from horseback against foot soldiers. Cheers, and best, Michael

27th March 2011, 01:15 PM	#13
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A Fine Katzbalger Sold for 16,500 USD at Sotheby's N.Y., January 12, 1991 Ca. 1515, preserved in perfect patina all over. Author's color photos. Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 27th March 2011 at 02:54 PM.

30th March 2011, 04:32 PM	#14
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A knight with his Katzbalger, ca. 1510. Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 30th March 2011 at 04:53 PM.