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22nd October 2010, 02:11 AM
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I agree: Turkish. In support of this are the scabbard cover and decorations; slender hilt; tall pommel; tall and narrow "buttons".
I do not think I saw many ( if any:-)) kindjals with twisted damscus, must be quite rare. As to the " Empire bring-back", I have only one word: Gallipoli :-) And, of course, continuous presence of British arm forces after the end of WWII, and Allenby's march across the Ottoman-controlled Palestine. Many occasions to get a nice trophy to hang on the wall in Goode Olde Englande :-) Overall, very nice, good workmanship of the blade, but the ottomans, just like the Syrians, never mastered the artistic beauty of Kubachi. |
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22nd October 2010, 08:05 AM
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i find the blade particulary beautiful and certainly not usual
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30th October 2010, 01:36 AM
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Thank you I am very pleased with it. I've just finished cleaning the gunk off of the blade and there is a nice steel edge showing. I'll add pictures tomorrow when I can take them in daylight. Best gene |
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30th October 2010, 03:33 PM
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IMO The sword (blade and hilt) is Caucasian. I have seen few twisted cores. I cannot understand from the photos if it is real twisted or etched. Only a close look can possibly tell.
But the scabbard is not from Caucasus. It could be from anywhere southern. Like Bulgaria, North Greece, Turkey or Syria. IMO the scabbard is later addition on a fine kidjal. I hope this helps. BTW, I am glad to be here again after long time 
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30th October 2010, 04:10 PM
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Hi Yannis, Good to have you back, thank you for joining the discussion of my new sword  I was just about to upload the latest pictures as I mentioned to l'audois last night. I have now finished cleaning the blade and I have given it the lightest possible polish and wipe with a mild product to reveal the structure. Have a look at the pictures below, you can now see the structure is rather complex. A clear line is visible separating the cutting edge, then a section between the core and the edge, and the twistcore itself which I believe is known as Turkish Star night? The twist core pattern can be seen to extend beyond the etched area into the polished area, showing it is a genuine twistcore. I wish it was an earlier blade, but the date has to be right  Although I am astounded at the level of work in a blade dated 1904!! Surely if I could just decipher that darn name  I would have some chance of finding some info on the maker? There can't have been many making such fine blades at that date?
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22nd October 2010, 11:55 AM
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Same here Ariel (And thank you for coming into this discussion) i have heard of them but never held one. Were the Ottoman forces carrying this sort of thing in WW1 then? Gallipoli was a bloody awful affair for all concerned. |
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23rd October 2010, 03:57 AM
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I do not think for a second that it was a regulation weapon, but who knows what kind of sharpie-pointies people might have taken with them to war? And, of course, civilians in Palestine or Turkey proper had them in spades. I am sure there were many opportunities to acquire it either before or after WWI. Unfortunately, weapons do not talk......
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24th October 2010, 03:17 PM
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