Storage advice needed

imas560 · 11th October 2010, 10:22 PM

Oh good point re gunsafe. Do you use a dehumidifier, desiccant or something similar in the safe?

imas560 · 11th October 2010, 10:26 PM

imas560 · 11th October 2010, 10:29 PM

The hilt.

imas560 · 11th October 2010, 10:38 PM

The blade. Definite concave/convex aspect to the blade. Don't know significance of the motif(?) on blade near hilt as I read that the mata kalong(?) was usually inscribed on the blade. The main plate in van Zonneveld does show a Mandau with metalwork with a piece near the hilt that looks similar.

imas560 · 11th October 2010, 10:44 PM

Scabbard. Something seems a little off to me re the scabbard. One side appears different to the other in regards to wood type/carving.

kahnjar1 · 12th October 2010, 04:19 AM

I suspect your question relates to storing and cleaning LATER when you have time, rather than immediate cleaning and storage??
I would just spray the blades with WD40/CRC556/Inox or the like. Leave OUT of scabbards and DON'T wrap in plastic which will seal in any moisture and cause sweating and more rust. If you have any old style FABRIC nappies lying around, they are ideal for wrapping items as they breathe and are soft.
I assume you already have weapons on display or in cabinets. Try to keep at a constant temp with humidity LOW. By all means use Silicagel as an added protection against damp if you are in a humid part of the country.
Regards Stuart

VANDOO · 12th October 2010, 04:56 AM

I NOTICE THE SCABBARD HAS LEATHER ON IT, MAKE SURE THE BLADE DOSEN'T GET STORED IN CONTACT WITH THE LEATHER. LEATHER ATTRACTS MOISTURE AND OFTEN HAD CHEMICALS USED IN TANNING THAT PROMOTE RUST. THE SCABBARD HAS TRACES OF DYED GOAT HAIR AS WELL AS VERY NICE FIBER KNOT WORK, THOSE AS WELL AS THE HANDLE CARVINGS MAY BE OF HELP IN IDENTIFING THE TRIBE OR REGION OF ORIGIN. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF IN DEPTH KNOWLEGE. OFTEN THE POUCH AND SMALL KNIFE ARE MISSING ON A GOOD WORKING DAYAK SWORD. IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR A BETTER HARD WOOD TO BE USED ON THE SCABBARD AND A SOFTER LIGHTER ,LESS EXPENSIVE WOOD FOR THE BACK. THE HARDER WOOD WILL TAKE MORE DETAILED CARVING AND WEAR LESS THAN THE SOFTER VARIETY AND AS THE BACK IS NOT SHOWN IS LESS IMPORTANT SO ITS A GOOD PLACE TO CUT COST BY USING LESS EXPENSIVE WOODS.
CONGRADULATIONS A NICE LITTLE ASSORTMENT OF GOODIES

Rich · 12th October 2010, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imas560

Oh good point re gunsafe. Do you use a dehumidifier, desiccant or something similar in the safe?

No, nothing but clean, dry air :-) in the gun safe although we do run a dehumdifier in the summer for the house.

Rich S

imas560 · 18th October 2010, 02:35 AM

Thanks for the great info everyone. I have some Renaissance wax on it's way for when I can devote some time to these items.
I have some photos for the next mandau. It has taken awhile as I got sprung taking photos of the last one and the wife went ballistic, so I thought it best to keep quiet about the other 5 items I got. I couldn't explain why I needed these things, it's a sickness.
The item referred to in the auction as "Old Dyak Headhunters Mandau".
Dimensions:
Weight = 800gm approx.
Overall Length = 710mm.
Blade length (tip to hilt) = 580mm.
Point of balance = 400mm from tip.
Blade thickness along spine at 3 points.
Hilt = 7.5mm, midpoint blade = 6mm, 140mm from tip = 5mm.
Notes:
Steel cording on hilt needs repair.
Severe pitting on blade. Unidentified red substance on blade, more pronounced on one side. Concave/convex aspect less apparent. Crowit(?) on blade near hilt. Filework on spine of blade near tip.

imas560 · 18th October 2010, 02:41 AM

The hilt

imas560 · 18th October 2010, 02:45 AM

The blade

imas560 · 18th October 2010, 02:50 AM

The blade continued

The scabbard

imas560 · 18th October 2010, 02:53 AM

The scabbard continued

11th October 2010, 10:26 PM	#2
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Dayak Mandau pic set 1

11th October 2010, 10:29 PM	#3
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Dayak Mandau pic set 2 The hilt.

11th October 2010, 10:38 PM	#4
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Dayak Mandau pic set 3 The blade. Definite concave/convex aspect to the blade. Don't know significance of the motif(?) on blade near hilt as I read that the mata kalong(?) was usually inscribed on the blade. The main plate in van Zonneveld does show a Mandau with metalwork with a piece near the hilt that looks similar.

11th October 2010, 10:44 PM	#5
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Dayak Mandau pic set 4 Scabbard. Something seems a little off to me re the scabbard. One side appears different to the other in regards to wood type/carving.

18th October 2010, 02:41 AM	#10
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Mandau Pic Set 1 The hilt

11th October 2010, 10:22 PM	#1
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Oh good point re gunsafe. Do you use a dehumidifier, desiccant or something similar in the safe?

12th October 2010, 04:19 AM	#6
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,789	I suspect your question relates to storing and cleaning LATER when you have time, rather than immediate cleaning and storage?? I would just spray the blades with WD40/CRC556/Inox or the like. Leave OUT of scabbards and DON'T wrap in plastic which will seal in any moisture and cause sweating and more rust. If you have any old style FABRIC nappies lying around, they are ideal for wrapping items as they breathe and are soft. I assume you already have weapons on display or in cabinets. Try to keep at a constant temp with humidity LOW. By all means use Silicagel as an added protection against damp if you are in a humid part of the country. Regards Stuart

12th October 2010, 04:56 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I NOTICE THE SCABBARD HAS LEATHER ON IT, MAKE SURE THE BLADE DOSEN'T GET STORED IN CONTACT WITH THE LEATHER. LEATHER ATTRACTS MOISTURE AND OFTEN HAD CHEMICALS USED IN TANNING THAT PROMOTE RUST. THE SCABBARD HAS TRACES OF DYED GOAT HAIR AS WELL AS VERY NICE FIBER KNOT WORK, THOSE AS WELL AS THE HANDLE CARVINGS MAY BE OF HELP IN IDENTIFING THE TRIBE OR REGION OF ORIGIN. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF IN DEPTH KNOWLEGE. OFTEN THE POUCH AND SMALL KNIFE ARE MISSING ON A GOOD WORKING DAYAK SWORD. IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR A BETTER HARD WOOD TO BE USED ON THE SCABBARD AND A SOFTER LIGHTER ,LESS EXPENSIVE WOOD FOR THE BACK. THE HARDER WOOD WILL TAKE MORE DETAILED CARVING AND WEAR LESS THAN THE SOFTER VARIETY AND AS THE BACK IS NOT SHOWN IS LESS IMPORTANT SO ITS A GOOD PLACE TO CUT COST BY USING LESS EXPENSIVE WOODS. CONGRADULATIONS A NICE LITTLE ASSORTMENT OF GOODIES

18th October 2010, 02:35 AM	#9
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Thanks for the great info everyone. I have some Renaissance wax on it's way for when I can devote some time to these items. I have some photos for the next mandau. It has taken awhile as I got sprung taking photos of the last one and the wife went ballistic, so I thought it best to keep quiet about the other 5 items I got. I couldn't explain why I needed these things, it's a sickness. The item referred to in the auction as "Old Dyak Headhunters Mandau". Dimensions: Weight = 800gm approx. Overall Length = 710mm. Blade length (tip to hilt) = 580mm. Point of balance = 400mm from tip. Blade thickness along spine at 3 points. Hilt = 7.5mm, midpoint blade = 6mm, 140mm from tip = 5mm. Notes: Steel cording on hilt needs repair. Severe pitting on blade. Unidentified red substance on blade, more pronounced on one side. Concave/convex aspect less apparent. Crowit(?) on blade near hilt. Filework on spine of blade near tip.

18th October 2010, 02:45 AM	#11
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Mandau Pic Set 2 The blade

18th October 2010, 02:50 AM	#12
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Mandau Pic Set 3 The blade continued The scabbard

18th October 2010, 02:53 AM	#13
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Mandau Pic Set 4 The scabbard continued