Old File Bladed shibriya for comment

[spiral]

Definatly a great thread Gene!

Thank you again for the information Broadaxe. Ive seen so little info about these generaly.

Re-reading it I see the Armenian comment was about Genes silver piece not mine. Does that mean mine is more likly Circassion in style perhaps?

What are the earliest known examples of these? Ive wondered if the shape was derived from the tip of French Yataghan bayonets? Is anything known about the origins of the Shibriya?

Spiral

[broadaxe]

Originally Posted by spiral

Definatly a great thread Gene!

Thank you again for the information Broadaxe. Ive seen so little info about these generaly.

Re-reading it I see the Armenian comment was about Genes silver piece not mine. Does that mean mine is more likly Circassion in style perhaps?

What are the earliest known examples of these? Ive wondered if the shape was derived from the tip of French Yataghan bayonets? Is anything known about the origins of the Shibriya?

Spiral

No, no. I was referring to your piece. Atlantia's is a strange hybrid. Again, Circassians did not produce local style weapons. The history of the shabriya is obscure and yet to be researched thoroughly. The earliest I'm aware of are from the late 19th century.

[broadaxe]

Here you go, longer one is 33cm overall. Though I got each one on different time and occasion (one has been imported from USA via ebay...) they are very much alike.

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by broadaxe

Atlantia's is a strange hybrid.

Be about right for me then!

[Warren McQ]

Here are a couple that I've picked up recently.
I Believe that the bone handle one could be pre WW2 and I think the other is a 1964 dated tourist model.

[spiral]

Ahhh! Thanks again Broadaxe for the clarification & also the pics of the bone examples. Interesting to see the blade shape varients.

Intresting bone top on that piece Warren, I havent seen the that shape before.

Spiral

[broadaxe]

Indeed, Warren's bone handled specimen is rare, the three-pronged pommel is less common but this is the first I see with a bone handle. I think, though, its sheath has been made later, in the 1950's & onwards fashion.

[spiral]

Heres the oldest pictures Ive found so far of Bedouin with Shabria, there from1921. It would be nice to see other old ones if anyone has them?

spiral

[Warren McQ]

Thanks Much, Could you share more of your impression of this knife and the three pronged pommel ?
I'd like to know what it all means and about the era in which it was made.
Thanks Much,
Warren in Arizona

Originally Posted by broadaxe

Indeed, Warren's bone handled specimen is rare, the three-pronged pommel is less common but this is the first I see with a bone handle. I think, though, its sheath has been made later, in the 1950's & onwards fashion.