Crowns on Aceh weapons revisited

asomotif · 26th August 2010, 10:12 PM

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So it does make some sense that many of these were harvested over time.

Yep. Just imagine... These weapons where often already in dutch hands during the crisis in the 1930's. Useless gold laying around on your attic.
And they where around in WW 2. Food was scarce, sigarets and coffee where hard to get and than you find this piece of useless gold fixed to an old sword that was also not very usefull.

erikscollectables · 27th August 2010, 08:30 AM

There are quite a few of these harvested around - although still rare items.
Last week I saw a rentjong for sale with gold inlay and that had clearly had triple crowns and also the back part of the handle covered in gold - like the one left in the first photo in the thread. It must have been an incredible piece when it was complete....

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Yep. Just imagine... These weapons where often already in dutch hands during the crisis in the 1930's. Useless gold laying around on your attic.
And they where around in WW 2. Food was scarce, sigarets and coffee where hard to get and than you find this piece of useless gold fixed to an old sword that was also not very usefull.

Battara · 28th August 2010, 01:56 AM

Where is this rencong?

Anyway, it would be of higher status to have 14k+ over swassa. Back then the moulding of the metal was not the chore like it is today.

asomotif · 28th August 2010, 06:56 AM

Chore = daily routine.

No, I can not imagine how they would make such crowns with only charcoal/wood fire. The crowns are not solid and they are made with much detail.

erikscollectables · 28th August 2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Where is this rencong?

It is now with one of the other forum members - I hope he will post pictures!

Battara · 28th August 2010, 06:25 PM

Sorry Asomotif. By chore I meant a lot of work (US colloquial expression). Back then they had more experience with doing this type of work than we do today.

Recong with another eh? Oh well.....

asomotif · 28th August 2010, 11:13 PM

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By chore I meant a lot of work

Ok, that explains the comment

erikscollectables · 30th August 2010, 01:47 PM

Was able to visit the Bronbeek Museum this weekend.
Unfortunately it is no langer a small heaven for those interested in the military history of the Dutch East Indies - it dropped from the first place in my list of favourite museums in the Netherlands....

There are still a few good Aceh weapons on display among which the rencong in the photo from Willem with triple crown and golden back on an ivory handle.

Also a peudeung with the handle totally covered in gold (I think the same as in Zonneveld...) - still looking for one like that - tips are most welcome

But no longer the Aceh flags and the large amounts of ethnographic weapons they had in the previous set up.

Will post pictures of the rencong with crowns later on.

30th August 2010, 01:47 PM	#8
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	bronbeek Was able to visit the Bronbeek Museum this weekend. Unfortunately it is no langer a small heaven for those interested in the military history of the Dutch East Indies - it dropped from the first place in my list of favourite museums in the Netherlands.... There are still a few good Aceh weapons on display among which the rencong in the photo from Willem with triple crown and golden back on an ivory handle. Also a peudeung with the handle totally covered in gold (I think the same as in Zonneveld...) - still looking for one like that - tips are most welcome But no longer the Aceh flags and the large amounts of ethnographic weapons they had in the previous set up. Will post pictures of the rencong with crowns later on.

28th August 2010, 01:56 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Where is this rencong? Anyway, it would be of higher status to have 14k+ over swassa. Back then the moulding of the metal was not the chore like it is today.

28th August 2010, 06:56 AM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	Chore = daily routine. No, I can not imagine how they would make such crowns with only charcoal/wood fire. The crowns are not solid and they are made with much detail.

28th August 2010, 06:25 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Sorry Asomotif. By chore I meant a lot of work (US colloquial expression). Back then they had more experience with doing this type of work than we do today. Recong with another eh? Oh well.....