strange african short sword??

ariel · 23rd July 2010, 10:49 PM

Come to think of it.....

Jim McDougall · 24th July 2010, 03:38 AM

To me it looks indeed like a Meditteranean naval sabre, but more of the type seen in Elgood ("Arms and Armour of Arabia") in the first photos in the sword chapter. The double fullers are very much the same, but rather than being the distally wide tip, this has the curious clipped point.

We know many of these blades were European on nimchas, what about this one?

Here are photos of similar examples Ariel posted in May, which give some great perspective of these maritime style sabres. Maybe we can pick up the discussion where we left off.

Gavin Nugent · 24th July 2010, 03:55 AM

Welcome Martin,

Nice to see some new and unusual variety in the forum.

I am curious about the hilt on this piece, what material is it? It looks to be iron? To me it is Naval and of North African origins and despite the terrible condition of the blade, it is something I would love to have in hand for further study.

Gav

Henk · 24th July 2010, 10:49 AM

Just like Atlantia I had the same idea we saw this sword before.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=snake
It was brought up by Luc Lefebvre. But the discussion ended quite early.
Maybe some new ideas will be brought up in this post?

fernando · 24th July 2010, 02:24 PM

Interesting piece !
So it wasn't Martin, but the previous owner, who asked Luc to post it here for ID?

Luc LEFEBVRE · 24th July 2010, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Interesting piece !
So it wasn't Martin, but the previous owner, who asked Luc to post it here for ID?

Yes he asked me for ID.

24th July 2010, 03:38 AM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,192	To me it looks indeed like a Meditteranean naval sabre, but more of the type seen in Elgood ("Arms and Armour of Arabia") in the first photos in the sword chapter. The double fullers are very much the same, but rather than being the distally wide tip, this has the curious clipped point. We know many of these blades were European on nimchas, what about this one? Here are photos of similar examples Ariel posted in May, which give some great perspective of these maritime style sabres. Maybe we can pick up the discussion where we left off. Attached Images

24th July 2010, 03:55 AM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Interesting piece Welcome Martin, Nice to see some new and unusual variety in the forum. I am curious about the hilt on this piece, what material is it? It looks to be iron? To me it is Naval and of North African origins and despite the terrible condition of the blade, it is something I would love to have in hand for further study. Gav

23rd July 2010, 10:49 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Come to think of it.....

24th July 2010, 10:49 AM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Just like Atlantia I had the same idea we saw this sword before. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=snake It was brought up by Luc Lefebvre. But the discussion ended quite early. Maybe some new ideas will be brought up in this post?

24th July 2010, 02:24 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Interesting piece ! So it wasn't Martin, but the previous owner, who asked Luc to post it here for ID?