Dagger for ID (Answer to follow)

[kronckew]

shows why the sheath or scabbard is an integral part of it's provenance. i thought the grip was a bit off for a vendetta, the scabbard is distinctive tho. (if original )

my only touareg piece is a completely different style (and i'd guess a bit bigger with it's 14.25" blade)

[Ronald]

Hello , dear forum-member,

I am sure, that this knife comes from Mauretania. The grip shows a very typical inlaid work of white metal in shape of rings and loops.

Some years ago I bought an interesting short stick with a dagger inside. It was used as a pointer in a Koran-school in Mauretania and shows the same decoration: A black body of unknown material (perhaps a kind of horn) decorated with inlaid copper and white metal.

Kind regards,

Ronald

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Ronald

Hello , dear forum-member,

I am sure, that this knife comes from Mauretania. The grip shows a very typical inlaid work of white metal in shape of rings and loops.

Some years ago I bought an interesting short stick with a dagger inside. It was used as a pointer in a Koran-school in Mauretania and shows the same decoration: A black body of unknown material (perhaps a kind of horn) decorated with inlaid copper and white metal.

Kind regards,

Ronald

Hi Ronald.

I am completely unfamiliar with weapons described as being from Mauretania.
Do you have more information that you could share?
Thanks
Gene

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by Ronald

Hello , dear forum-member,

I am sure, that this knife comes from Mauretania. The grip shows a very typical inlaid work of white metal in shape of rings and loops.
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Kind regards,

Ronald

if you meant mine, we discussed it's origins in this thread which does mention it's origins are a bit broad & mauretania is not out of the question. the decorations look much like touareg ones i've seen on other knives, and jewelery attributed to the touaregs. it is a bit outside my area of collecting, so i bow to the more knowledgeable here.

[Bryan.H]

Atlantia, would you call that dagger called a Telek, or is that the generic term for any knife in the Tuareg cultural groups?

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Bryan.H

Atlantia, would you call that dagger called a Telek, or is that the generic term for any knife in the Tuareg cultural groups?

Hi Bryan.
Well, I wouldn't call it a Telek to be honest. Mostly because I don't know what 'Telek' translates as? But also because when I think 'Telek' I only think of the classic shape and slight variations of it. This seems too far removed from that form to me.
Gene

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by kronckew

shows why the sheath or scabbard is an integral part of it's provenance. i thought the grip was a bit off for a vendetta, the scabbard is distinctive tho. (if original )

my only touareg piece is a completely different style (and i'd guess a bit bigger with it's 14.25" blade)

Absolutely, I've seen a few similar knives over the years and although time dulls the recolection, I think now that I've seen these before minus the scabbards described as of other origins.
The scabbard is a perfect fit, so definately the original and as you say it does show how much easier the 'detective' work would be if we could always see the scabbards!