Fine Silver Thai/Burmese 'Hanger' Chatelaine or for a knife?

Mark · 10th July 2010, 08:28 PM

Never seen anything like it. It is quite beautiful, though.

Atlantia · 10th July 2010, 10:29 PM

Thanks Mark. The figure of Rama is superb, amazingly detailed and not too rubbed over the years.
Any thoughts on Origin or use?

Battara · 11th July 2010, 02:11 AM

Nice deep repousse work. Always in awe of this type of work.

Atlantia · 11th July 2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Nice deep repousse work. Always in awe of this type of work.

There really is nothing quite like a bit of Nice deep repousse work!

Nathaniel · 11th July 2010, 06:45 PM

Interesting piece...I love the repousse silver work as well. I would love to add a repoussed silver dha to the collection sometime with figures such as this...it was fantastic seeing Mark's at the Seminar this spring!

What is puzzling to me is why most of these heavily silver repousse swords appear to be exclusive to Burma? Would you say Burman to be specific Mark?

(Along with the Koftgari would be burman? Versus Kachin/ Shan. I'm sure the Koftgari was picked up from neighboring India.)

I've seen beautiful repoussed bowls from northern Thailand and Laos.

http://www.chiangmai-chiangrai.com/s..._thailand.html

Atlantia · 11th July 2010, 07:04 PM

Thanks for the input Nathaniel.

Heres a better pic of this piece

Nathaniel · 11th July 2010, 07:05 PM

I think it's a sword loop belt hanger

..well...maybe not....just a little stretch of the imagination

Nathaniel · 11th July 2010, 07:06 PM

Alantia, much better picture! Gives you a better 3D perspective

Atlantia · 11th July 2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathaniel

I think it's a sword loop belt hanger

..well...maybe not....just a little stretch of the imagination

I wish, but it would support a small knife or something......
Any ideas?
Gene

Mark · 18th July 2010, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathaniel

Interesting piece...I love the repousse silver work as well. I would love to add a repoussed silver dha to the collection sometime with figures such as this...it was fantastic seeing Mark's at the Seminar this spring!

What is puzzling to me is why most of these heavily silver repousse swords appear to be exclusive to Burma? Would you say Burman to be specific Mark?

(Along with the Koftgari would be burman? Versus Kachin/ Shan. I'm sure the Koftgari was picked up from neighboring India.)

I've seen beautiful repoussed bowls from northern Thailand and Laos.

http://www.chiangmai-chiangrai.com/s..._thailand.html

No idea why the deep repousse work on swords is exclusively Burman (I believe it is) - as you say, the technique is hardly unique to Burma. Quirk of history or taste, perhaps. As for what this is, I doubt it is a sword or dagger hanger. Its too small and the hook on the back would not, I think, be a very secure belt/sash attachment with something so heavy hanging off of it. The swords and daggers I have seen with similar decoration invariably have rings on the scabbard for a baldric cord attachment. I'm baffled.

Atlantia · 18th July 2010, 08:28 PM

Gav and Mark.

Thank you gentlemen for your help.
I am now regretfully in agreement that this is not a hanger for a weapon.
My thoughts are that it is either as was suggested to do with some aspect of Burmese costume, or that it is simply a Chatelaine, made with traditional 'flavour' but for the European market.

Best
Gene

18th July 2010, 08:28 PM	#11
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Gav and Mark. Thank you gentlemen for your help. I am now regretfully in agreement that this is not a hanger for a weapon. My thoughts are that it is either as was suggested to do with some aspect of Burmese costume, or that it is simply a Chatelaine, made with traditional 'flavour' but for the European market. Best Gene Last edited by Atlantia; 18th July 2010 at 09:00 PM.

10th July 2010, 08:28 PM	#1
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Never seen anything like it. It is quite beautiful, though.

10th July 2010, 10:29 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Thanks Mark. The figure of Rama is superb, amazingly detailed and not too rubbed over the years. Any thoughts on Origin or use?

11th July 2010, 02:11 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,143	Nice deep repousse work. Always in awe of this type of work.

11th July 2010, 06:45 PM	#5
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Interesting piece...I love the repousse silver work as well. I would love to add a repoussed silver dha to the collection sometime with figures such as this...it was fantastic seeing Mark's at the Seminar this spring! What is puzzling to me is why most of these heavily silver repousse swords appear to be exclusive to Burma? Would you say Burman to be specific Mark? (Along with the Koftgari would be burman? Versus Kachin/ Shan. I'm sure the Koftgari was picked up from neighboring India.) I've seen beautiful repoussed bowls from northern Thailand and Laos. http://www.chiangmai-chiangrai.com/s..._thailand.html

11th July 2010, 07:04 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Thanks for the input Nathaniel. Heres a better pic of this piece

11th July 2010, 07:05 PM	#7
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	I think it's a sword loop belt hanger ..well...maybe not....just a little stretch of the imagination

11th July 2010, 07:06 PM	#8
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Alantia, much better picture! Gives you a better 3D perspective