Sumatra Keris tourist or not?

A. G. Maisey · 15th April 2010, 01:26 AM

Thanks for persevering with this Henk.

I won't make any further comment of the idea of wood "quality", as the difference in our perceptions, and possibly differences in language could see us talking forever.

As to dating, yes, I think the carved styles probably did begin to proliferate in about the middle of the 19th century. But really, we're kidding ourselves to presume to put any date on any of the dress styles, simply because there is very little reliable evidence upon which to base our guess.

kulbuntet · 17th April 2010, 01:10 AM

Other example of antique tourist/knil soldier keris. The blad is much older than the scabard.

kulbuntet · 17th April 2010, 01:18 AM

I do understand what Henk is trying to say. Sometimes i think that holland have more keris than wooden shoes.

Most of them are lower quality wood. Type of woord is light. Some times well cut some times not well cut. Some times harder wood, lesser cut quality. And very sometimes hard wood good/beter cut quality.

It not all time thes types of scabard were made only for Knil Soldiers that went back to holland. I have seen photo's of Maduran soldiers in KNIL army. Wearing those types of keris. I find manny of those keris having realy old baldes inside of them. Some of them bought by Indoneisans from Javaneese the give them sheath "upgrade" to be sold to dutch, for higher price. Iff there is realation between Islaam and getting rid of their old kerisses, i dont know.

15th April 2010, 01:26 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,134	Thanks for persevering with this Henk. I won't make any further comment of the idea of wood "quality", as the difference in our perceptions, and possibly differences in language could see us talking forever. As to dating, yes, I think the carved styles probably did begin to proliferate in about the middle of the 19th century. But really, we're kidding ourselves to presume to put any date on any of the dress styles, simply because there is very little reliable evidence upon which to base our guess.

17th April 2010, 01:10 AM	#2
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	Other example of antique tourist/knil soldier keris. The blad is much older than the scabard.

17th April 2010, 01:18 AM	#3
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	I do understand what Henk is trying to say. Sometimes i think that holland have more keris than wooden shoes. Most of them are lower quality wood. Type of woord is light. Some times well cut some times not well cut. Some times harder wood, lesser cut quality. And very sometimes hard wood good/beter cut quality. It not all time thes types of scabard were made only for Knil Soldiers that went back to holland. I have seen photo's of Maduran soldiers in KNIL army. Wearing those types of keris. I find manny of those keris having realy old baldes inside of them. Some of them bought by Indoneisans from Javaneese the give them sheath "upgrade" to be sold to dutch, for higher price. Iff there is realation between Islaam and getting rid of their old kerisses, i dont know.