Saxon Arms

[corrado26]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

The serpent on the ricasso in the second image is of course associated with Milan and used by makers variously in that context.

It is interesting to know that the nearly same snake-mark is the sign of the DANNER-family at Nürnberg

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by corrado26

It is interesting to know that the nearly same snake-mark is the sign of the DANNER-family at Nürnberg

Good catch Udo!!!
What reference is this!? I must have it it surely leaves the standard compendiums in the dust.

[corrado26]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Good catch Udo!!!
What reference is this!? I must have it it surely leaves the standard compendiums in the dust.

Eugen Heer, Der Neue Stoeckel, Schwäbisch Hall 1978, 3 volumes, 2280 pages, this opus is a MUST!!!

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by corrado26

Eugen Heer, Der Neue Stoeckel, Schwäbisch Hall 1978, 3 volumes, 2280 pages, this opus is a MUST!!!

Thank you Udo
Sounds pretty obscure and expensive.........the search begins. Your endorsement is motivating, so as Holmes would say, "the games afoot!".

[Merenti]

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I try to give my opinion a little free rein here, I also listen to your opinions. I'm happy to accept additions and try to incorporate them. Of course, I will also name sources.


I would like to start with what I think is the simplest variant

The Saxon estoc with a simple eight-sided pommel and lines. Carried as a secondary weapon on horseback. In the version shown, probably for simple court servants on horseback.

The version with different blades (triangular and square) and usually provided with the Pi brand. There were leather sleeves and metal sleeves for the transition from scabbard to blade.

A chronological classification is difficult, but I assume 1590-1600.


Sidenotes:

1. The mounted contingent of the Saxon Trebanten guard was formed of a company of one hundred men on black horses.

2.Their uniform included a blackened comb morion (a type of open helmet used from the middle 16th to early 17th centuries) with etched and gilt ornament, black doublets and yellow hose and stockings, the colours being those of the Arms of the Electors of Saxony.

Source: Copyright © 2016 Peter Finer

[Merenti]

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2 estocs with triangular blades and the same pommel. From the Rüstkammer collection in Dresden.