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Old 2nd March 2025, 02:41 PM   #5
Jim McDougall
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Originally Posted by piratelady View Post
Ian; Thank you so much. That was a big help. Another question. The guard on the sword looks like it has 2 pieces. Like it is a split guard. Is there a term for that?
Hi Pirate Lady,
I'd like to join Ian in welcoming you here! and am very thrilled to see you bring up this interesting area of piracy, and especially this particular female pirate.
She was apparently in control of a huge confederacy of pirates in the South China Sea, and they preyed on Portuguese, as well as Qing and Dutch East India Co. vessels.

As you note, the weapons used by pirates (as discussed in the thread concurrent here) varied profoundly and often included many captured arms which had many cultural and national sources.

A weapon as suggested in the image, if indeed an early photograph, may well have used a weapon other than her own. There may have been any number of these potential European weapons in circulation there and then.
Still, we are discussing what type of sword is depicted, whether used by Zheng Yi Sao or not. As Ian has noted, the blade in the orig. illustration seems very slender, pointed, and somewhat short.....recalling European small swords as he suggests, which were of the 18th century but extended into 19th in degree, typically as court swords.

It would be interesting to look into the actual weapons used by Chinese martial artists, who often became 'river pirates' as well, and the various dao and 'butterfly knives' along with other arms as well.

It seems that a number of Napoleonic French swords had a swing out knuckleguard which added extra hand protection as required. These were an innovation which precluded the eventual style of multi bar guards in the 1820s, until then most sabers had stirrup knuckle guards. As the French had notable colonial presence in the Indo-China regions etc. it seems quite possible this might be one of these.
The attached image of one of these French sabers (Cathey Brimage coll.) illustrates the concept, which was known simply as a folding guard in discussion, as far as local or actual term used on original examples it is uncertain what term might have been used.
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