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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th March 2005, 10:37 PM
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Posted By Bill
boxing exhibition?

boxing exhibition?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th March 2005, 10:32 PM
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Posted By Bill
that picture may simply be the results of the...

that picture may simply be the results of the phenomena that happens in the Philippines, whenever a camera is raised, there will always be at least 20 people posing.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th March 2005, 03:46 PM
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Posted By Bill
nothing typical of Philippine type work

nothing typical of Philippine type work
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th March 2005, 02:24 PM
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Posted By Bill
a Makassarese connection may even be more likely...

a Makassarese connection may even be more likely as they would have been dominate power early 17thC Sulawesi as the Bugis groups have been in constant wars with each other. The Makassarese also have...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th March 2005, 02:03 PM
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Posted By Bill
A Philippine, Bugis, & Portuegese connection all...

A Philippine, Bugis, & Portuegese connection all seems to be feasible. The Dutch are successfull in Celebes/Moluccas because they are buisnessmen only concered about the bottom line. The Portuegese...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th March 2005, 12:50 PM
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Posted By Bill
Small brass sheets found at hobby stores are...

Small brass sheets found at hobby stores are usefull in repairs. Have found brass foil perfect for wraping the peksi of a keris. Not sure where to buy it, should be available on the internet, but it...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 27th March 2005, 12:35 PM
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Posted By Bill
Zamboanga, Great info, Thanks. I haven't seen...

Zamboanga, Great info, Thanks. I haven't seen before a specific group credited as the shipbuilders. From what I have seen only 3 early wrecks have been researched. Wonder if the Samal are the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th March 2005, 05:49 PM
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Posted By Bill
http://www.mingwrecks.com/wanli.html

http://www.mingwrecks.com/wanli.html
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th March 2005, 02:44 PM
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Posted By Bill
From what I have read, the early "Moro" seldom...

From what I have read, the early "Moro" seldom used thier valuable iron for tools. But they were early ship builders, & a panabas would likely be valuable in the process. Anyone have info on "Moro"...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th March 2005, 01:13 PM
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Views: 30,574
Posted By Bill
As Paul mentioned materials for a possible hilt,...

As Paul mentioned materials for a possible hilt, if it is Bugis, there would be a good chance that it could have been Buffalo horn. 400 years of salt water would likely have dissolved that.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th March 2005, 04:45 AM
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Views: 30,574
Posted By Bill
This is from the link John posted; {Department...

This is from the link John posted; {Department director-general Datuk Dr Adi Taha believed the ship belonged to the Portuguese and was heading from China to either Johor, Malacca or Batavia...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th March 2005, 02:55 AM
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Views: 30,574
Posted By Bill
Thanks for posting the pics. If that is around...

Thanks for posting the pics. If that is around 33cm, its not all that long. The X-ray makes it look like rattan all the way to the end, as well the X-ray pic makes the sheath look even more Bugis...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th March 2005, 01:19 AM
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Views: 30,574
Posted By Bill
http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breakin...

http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__international_news&articleid=132029 think this must be the same wreck, several news items have been released about it. Malays...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th March 2005, 08:10 PM
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Views: 55,542
Posted By Bill
an interesting thing is one can easily look up PI...

an interesting thing is one can easily look up PI court documents about criminal trials, on the internet. There is a number of murder trials (receint)that the panabas is the weapon, often being...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th March 2005, 07:45 PM
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Views: 30,574
Posted By Bill
Think this must be the wreck that was mentioned...

Think this must be the wreck that was mentioned awhile back, when it was first announced, it was mentioned in this forum. Seen the "Keris Sundang" label quite abit, think its even on a Malay postage...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th March 2005, 06:03 PM
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Views: 22,083
Posted By Bill
The white metal shows scratchs but no bumps or...

The white metal shows scratchs but no bumps or dents, so it was never on the sword durning use. The band around the hair plugs doesn't seem to go completely around, at least in the pics, where it is...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th March 2005, 05:40 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 30,574
Posted By Bill
Why is it believed that this ship was made in the...

Why is it believed that this ship was made in the Philippines? Is these any way to post the X-rays & any dimensions of whatever possible. When first found they were refering to this as a sundang, now...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 24th March 2005, 06:46 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 31,452
Posted By Bill
My guess is that a straight blade may bounce &...

My guess is that a straight blade may bounce & inflict little damage or tend to get stuck in bone or anything solid, striking from horseback. The curved blade gives the impact a place to go, down...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 24th March 2005, 03:57 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 22,083
Posted By Bill
Nice old Kampilan, also nice restoration project....

Nice old Kampilan, also nice restoration project. The white metal seems quite odd, your pics look like mine so its hard to see detail. While it has "Moro" design on the white metal, it doesn't look...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 24th March 2005, 01:42 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 17,565
Posted By Bill
Can someone explain the clarity of some of the...

Can someone explain the clarity of some of the pics on this forum. They seem to have more resolution than would be allowed. Is there a rule of thumb as to the MP of the digital camera, for instance,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th March 2005, 12:24 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 38,291
Posted By Bill
I've found several referances to the Bugis making...

I've found several referances to the Bugis making swords for trade, but don't know if they traded keris. I'm sure that as they migrated they took personal keris with them, add the Javanese trade...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 18th March 2005, 06:43 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 8,435
Posted By Bill
Swords make comeback

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=7934097&src=eDialog/GetContent
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 18th March 2005, 04:25 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 38,291
Posted By Bill
Alam Shah, would think that is the effect someone...

Alam Shah, would think that is the effect someone attempted to copy, the gandik area was intentionally pitted, likely to hold some gold there also. Empu Kumis posted this link:...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 18th March 2005, 03:58 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 36,259
Posted By Bill
Tom, just went to take more pics but no better...

Tom, just went to take more pics but no better images. Can't say it's a bullet, but it appears to me to show conciderable impact. There is a halo of slight indention surrounding the damage that...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 18th March 2005, 06:15 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 36,259
Posted By Bill
think .44 mag would do that & that wasn't around...

think .44 mag would do that & that wasn't around then. The exit hole is perfect, solid flat hit
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