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kronckew 27th May 2007 07:59 PM

stunning antique persian islamic nagini sword shamshir
 
love the description, everything it is not. except the stunning bit....the brass scabbard looks unusual for a moro kris.

this auction just ended, would have liked to bid but it went over my limit by a few pounds.

Ebay item no. 180118686947

i'm still looking for a good deal on a moro kris, looks like mandauman got a nice one. i guess from his user name he may know what it really is.

Tim Simmons 27th May 2007 09:32 PM

Is the scabbard ment to be like this? is a piece missing? the only reason I did not wade in.

Ferguson 27th May 2007 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons
Is the scabbard ment to be like this? is a piece missing? the only reason I did not wade in.

If you're speaking about the top of the scabbard, yes. It's a common design. Sometimes I envy you gents in the UK. So many ethno pieces brought back from the far flung outposts of the empire. :)

Steve

kronckew 27th May 2007 09:52 PM

the scabbards sometimes had the swelled end on it (wranka or sampir on a keris), sometimes not. both types in the photo on the research site.

http://home.earthlink.net/~federicom...images/k14.jpg

the gangya on the blade looks like it was forged along with the blade which i undestand is usually mid 20th c. rather than 19th. still a pretty item. steve f. may have more info.....

edited: i see he has commented. :)

Rick 27th May 2007 11:00 PM

Meh ... :shrug:
I believe this type of scabbard is of Mindanao origin.
Brass asang asang ??

Most of the Moro stuff is here in the States .

Flavio 27th May 2007 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick
Most of the Moro stuff is here in the States .

Yeah, unfortunately ;) :)

Rick 27th May 2007 11:19 PM

$225.00 US is not a bad price; but personally I do not love the workmanship on this piece.

Battara 30th May 2007 07:55 PM

I agree - don't like the quality on it. Brass mounts are not unheard of. I suspect that some of this metal is more recent than the original blade. I would place the scabbard at being Maguindanao, which is the only group as far as I know that has this scabbard style as one of the varients.


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