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Dear All,
I took this photo at an exhibition, Pesta Rakyat Cirebon (Folk Festival of Cirebon) at Jalan Siliwangi, Cirebon last week. An interesting combination -- "durga" hilt (?) combined on an old "kudi tranchang" (kind of sundanese kujang) -- in an unordinary sheath (the form, and the material of the warangka). The upper warangka, the "pelokan" part (not the gandar part) is probably made of "albino-buffalo" horn... What I want to know, is there any information on this kind of (durga) hilt? GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 31st December 2008 at 02:39 AM. |
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AFAIK it's first described as a Durga hilt in Martin Kerner's A4 book on Keris hilts. You will find additional info about it in Jensen's Kris Disk.
I don't think that's a hilt usually seen in Cirebon? Michael |
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"Gendheng Permoni" known as a goddess in Wayang world. A very beautiful goddess with "bad" manner. She wished to be Bathara Guru's (the highest god in Kahyangan or Heaven Kingdom) wife. But Bathara Guru only took Permoni's beautiful body as his wife, while he exchanged Permoni's soul/spirit with Dewi Uma's. Previously, Dewi Uma was cursed by Bathara Guru -- to become a "raseksi" (female giant creature) after Uma refused to make ... with Guru, while they were riding "lembu Andini" or sacred buffalo of Andini. The "raseksi's" (the giant Uma's body) with Permoni's soul, then called as Bathari Durga. While beautiful Permoni's body with good-mannered Uma's soul, as Dewi Umayi. Only Permoni's body, became Sang Hyang Bathara Guru's wife. And not Permoni's soul... GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 1st January 2009 at 09:05 AM. |
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... And this is the "Bali version" of such hilt. Of course, the hilt size is much much bigger.
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Another pics on "permoni" or "durga hilts". The brown one, I found it in Banyumas area -- about 100 or more kilometers South of Cirebon (western part of Central Java), and the black one I got it from Cirebon area...
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Ganja,
Thanks for the nice reference pictures as well as for sharing the interesting story about Gendheng Permoni, that I haven't heard before. In the European collections it seems like the old keris with this kind of hilt were collected in outmost East Java/Blambangan and Bali, not the Cirebon/Banyumas area? Michael |
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Is there any source predating 1940 that gives a name to this hilt form?
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As you know, West Java speak Sundanese and sometimes not understand Javanese, while Central Java and East Java, speaks Javanese -- and sometimes they don't understand Sundanese dialect. Either Wayang Golek in West Jawa, or Wayang Kulit (leather puppet) are still living until now, and still performed in villages in West Jawa, or Central and East Jawa. Some live-performance, also broadcasted in some local television. According to wayang story (not Hindhu story, although wayang is also a Hindhu folk art), Gendheng Permoni lives in Kahyangan Setra Gandamayit (Kingdom of corpse-smelled forest) in Forest of Krendawahana. A place where all kind of ghost, genie and all kinds of spirits are living... Bathara Kala, is the husband of Gendheng Permoni or Bathari Durga. Batara Kala is the sperm of Bathara Guru -- which once fell in the sea, while Bathara Guru and Dewi Uma were "travelling" on Lembu Andini, or sacred buffallo of Andini. According to "wayang-belief", Batara Kala used to eat "sukerta" children. Sukerta children, for instance -- only child in family, or twin children with different sex... etc So, every "sukerta children" must be specially treated in a special ceremony, called "ruwatan"... (Sukuh Temple told this special rite, in Sudamala story) to avoid from Bathara Kala... Back to the so called "durga hilt". Are we sure, that this type of hilt only found in Blambangan and Bali? Blambangan, maybe exist. But I don't think this type of hilt -- the smaller size -- is balinese. But possibly too West Jawa, and western part of Central Jawa -- around Banyumas. (The site of former Hindu Segaluh Kingdom) As you know, there had been two Hindhu kingdoms in West Jawa between 10th to 13th century -- Pajajaran Kingdom, and Segaluh Kingdom... But during Hindhu Mataram (not Islamic Mataram in 16th century) king Empu Sindok -- 10th century -- the kingdom moved to East Jawa, because of the devastating volcano eruptions. Quote:
Maybe like "keris majapahit" mentioned by western expert, but locally in Jawa they call such kerises as "keris sajen". In Malaysia, they call this javanese "keris sajen" (offering kerises) as "keris pichit"... Hopefully my limited ability in English doesn't make you misunderstood... GANJAWULUNG |
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Thanks for the explanation.
I have only read one Sundanese Ruwatan in full, it's about the Origin of Kala, were Mahadewi is named Emban Durga in the play. Do you have the Kris disk by Karsten Sejr-Jensen? In it there are a couple of really old hilts that is the same style. I don't either think it's documented before Kerner as it's quite rare. Michael |
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Yes Pak Gonjo, and that's about the way I understand it too.
Back in the late 1960's and the 1970's, in Solo and Jogja, I never heard anybody call a keris sajen a "Keris Majapahit", but gradually over the years this term has crept into the local terminology, and now everybody in the markets calls them that. The first "Durga" hilt I came across was in Malang some time in the 1970's. The seller, and a couple of other people called it a "perempuan" hilt. During the 1980's and 1990's in Solo several tukang jejeran I knew called it "jejeran wadon". Nobody I have known, or know now, in Jawa, calls it a "Durga" hilt. To the best of my knowledge, this term "Durga" originates with a western writer's rather vivid imagination. It is a nice, colourful name. It sure sounds better than than just "woman". But if the name is subjected to logical analysis in the context of the nature of the keris, I personally find it very difficult to accept as a true designation for this hilt form. We can digress into wayang terminolgy & etc, & etc, & etc, but that is just smoke and mirrors. The core question is this:- where is the evidence, or the properly constructed logical argument, that can provide acceptable support for the name "Durga" to be attached to this hilt form? In my estimation, there is none. I agree with you Pak Gonjo:- this name is a modern invention, originating in the west. |
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But I respect very much westerners like Zoetmulder -- and nowadays Niels Mulder and also Australian historian Ricklefs who have made much contribution on Javanese and Indonesian culture, with their vastly research in the past, and their books on Indonesia. And also people like you Alan, that lives for so long with Javanese culture. Quote:
The pics below, just showing you the comparison between "jejeran wadon" (sorry, I choose the term used by Alan) or "hilt with woman figure", one bigger Balinese, and the two others I think Javanese "jejeran wadon" hilts.. GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 3rd January 2009 at 02:14 AM. |
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Pak Gonjo, I know that you are a reader.
As such, you would be aware how easy it is for something to be published by one writer, and then what that writer has presented is picked up by another writer, and then another, and so on and so on, and eventually what the first writer presented becomes fact, fact that is supported by a string of references, but if you track it back to the place where it originated, you sometimes find that it is no more than somebody's good idea, or casual remark. I think that this is possibly the way we need to look at our Durga hilt. It possibly pleases a lot of people to call it a Durga hilt---that's a really cool name for a keris hilt, and feeds well the Silk Road Syndrome. But I don't believe we can support this designation as an accurate one. |
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Greetings,
Mr. DUUREN has written about the keris being an earthly approach to a cosmic symbol. - Maybe what we are witnessing here is a proof that there is a extraterrestrial connection between the keris and outer world ![]() Dont you think there is a strong resemblance? ![]() ![]() Thanks, J |
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Indeed !
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If not locally known as Durga in the recent past, does that mean it is not a representation of what Durga is? would it be concidered correct to be brazen about a Hindu image?
This is quite interesting, the "Historical Perspective" seems to suggest that in some ways Durga is still present. http://www.asianart.com/articles/durga/index.html Last edited by Tim Simmons; 3rd January 2009 at 04:24 PM. |
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A more earthly approach?
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